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NOTE: I realize that this forum is meant for getting a job at game development but I am not sure if asking about a game retail job is appropriate in this forum. Regardless, feel free to lock this forum if this topic should be posted somewhere else. A link to a site where it would be most appropriate would be appreciated as well.

Hi everyone, I would like to apply to a Gamestop store around New York City and they would be hiring around this fall. However, I am just wondering if my experiences would make me a great applicant. I don't have any retail experience yet but I believe I have the skills necessary to do the job. I have attached draft of my resume for Gamestop without my personal infomation:

I appreciate any feedback from anybody and thanks in advance. Again, my apologies if this should not be posted in this forum

Edit: I know this topic is a little dated now but I was told that I should not post my resume on message boards because anyone can steal the work history for their own use. I find it a little absurd since we have a references section in job applications but then again, I hear Gamestop employers don't call references at all and people can lie about their resume anytime. I decided not to take any chances. Again, thanks to all who have posted. Edited by emark.mark20

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One more thing I forgot to ask: I am going back to school in the fall and most of my free time would be in the evenings from Monday to Thursday, Fridays after 10:45, and I am free on the weekends. Would a limited schedule hurt my chances for employment? Thanks again.

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Getting the retail job will not significantly help with a game development job. The two do not have comparable skill sets; it shows you have an interest in games, but that is not enough to break in.

There is always a demand for seasonal work in retail, so if you apply to an opening you have a reasonable chance of getting it. The barriers for entry at retail are fairly low.

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I'm guessing they won't even want a resume. Chances are you just need to fill out a job application and have a couple references handy. Unless you're applying to be a higher level manager or something.

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Not to be too harsh on Gamestop, but that's like applying for a McDonalds position, if you ask me. Main thing you'll learn is which games come out when, plus some general costumer service (depending on the individual store and it's policies). Unless, of course, you get lucky and get to do some higher-up management stuff, then you *may* get to do some deeper costumer service stuff. But I don't see what that's got to do with writing methods for a company (if that's your end goal). Edited by DrMadolite

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emark hasn't asked about the retail job as being valuable for working in game development.
He only asked about getting the retail job.
I think it's a valid question. And I don't agree with the prevailing opinion expressed above that a game retail job is bad for a game industry job applicant -- I think a game retail job gives the individual a good perspective on gamers and what they like.

That said, I agree with the prevailing question about emark's long-term plan -- after the game retail job, what's the plan for then?

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[quote name='emark.mark20' timestamp='1343238320' post='4962999']
Would a limited schedule hurt my chances for employment?
[/quote]

Probably. But try for it anyway. If you don't try, you definitely won't get the job.
And make sure you always remember that your priority for the short term is to get good grades at school, and get the degree.

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[quote name='frob' timestamp='1343239447' post='4963008']
Getting the retail job will not significantly help with a game development job. The two do not have comparable skill sets; it shows you have an interest in games, but that is not enough to break in.
There is always a demand for seasonal work in retail, so if you apply to an opening you have a reasonable chance of getting it. The barriers for entry at retail are fairly low.
[/quote]


[quote name='Tom Sloper' timestamp='1343263318' post='4963121']
I think it's a valid question. And I don't agree with the prevailing opinion expressed above that a game retail job is bad for a game industry job applicant -- I think a game retail job gives the individual a good perspective on gamers and what they like.

That said, I agree with the prevailing question about emark's long-term plan -- after the game retail job, what's the plan for then?
[/quote]

Thanks for expressing your opinions. However, I have just got a job at Dunkin Donuts so I don't think I will be applying to Gamestop this fall unless something happens. Besides, despite the low barriers, I found out that some Gamestop stores in my area (not all of them) look for experienced people in retail anyway. Still I will have to think about if I should go for Gamestop anyway in the future. While I know college is more important than working at gamestop to get into the industry, I figured that every little bit of knowledge of the industry could help when the time comes to apply for a game development job. As in the above quote, Tom already expressed his position on it.

Reguarding the long term plan, I figured that I might get some sort of internship related to art after the retail/ food service job (I am an art major now) so hopefully by that time, I should have some proper 3D modeling or drawing skills


By the way, has anyone got around taking a look at my resume?

Thanks to everyone who has posted

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Hi Emark,

I took a quick look at your resume, and while the point is a bit moot now, should you ever decide to try for the Gamestop job again my feedback is:[list]
[*]Make sure your resume shows your love of gaming
[list]
[*]Try adding a quote about games in the footer?
[*]List your hobbies?
[*]Perhaps add an image or logo that shows your love of gaming?
[/list][*]Don't be afraid to [url="http://www.coolinfographics.com/blog/2012/6/15/200-infographic-resumes-an-escalating-trend.html"]get creative [/url]to help yourself stand out
[*]Most importantly, NEVER GIVE UP. If you want to work at Gamestop, apply every month. Try different resumes and strategies. Stay hungry.
[/list]

Best,

Destin
[url="http://www.ineedtomakegames.com"]www.ineedtomakegames.com[/url]

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[quote name='DrMadolite' timestamp='1343262203' post='4963113']
Not to be too harsh on Gamestop, but that's like applying for a McDonalds position
[/quote]

I'm going to tell the story of a friend of mine which shall remain anonymous.
That person worked in the games division of an electronics shop much akin to Gamestop for a few years.
She is now in the game industry. And yes, the position she had was instrumental in securing that job.

Whatever the job you do, you can 'do the job' or 'DO the job'. Sure, you could just tell people in what row to find the game they're after, or when its released, or you can work out a deal with your boss (in case its not already up) where he allows you to play all of the games for free in your spare time, so that you always have something to say about THAT game. You may not realize this, but the industry needs people that are able to tell apart a 'good/bad game' from a series of 'good/bad decisions'. From my perspective, there are a lot of people upstairs that can't quite see the chain of decisions that lead to a bad game, and this means they are going to repeat the same mistakes again.

Personally, I think landing a job at Gamestop may be beneficial to a game dev career if you get in there with the right mindset. It can help you refine your 'critique' sense and give you a broader understanding of game quality which is, once again, instrumental in getting polishes games released.

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[quote name='Tom Sloper' timestamp='1343263318' post='4963121']
emark hasn't asked about the retail job as being valuable for working in game development.[/quote]

I guess I was just continuing on frob's line of thought. You are correct, of course.

[quote name='Orymus3' timestamp='1344095925' post='4966122']
I'm going to tell the story of a friend of mine which shall remain anonymous.
That person worked in the games division of an electronics shop much akin to Gamestop for a few years.
She is now in the game industry. And yes, the position she had was instrumental in securing that job.[/quote]

Yes and working at McDonalds can be instrumental in making you the owner of your own restaurant chain (no sarcasm intended - you literally get opportunities if you do a great job and mingle with the right crowd). My point is that it's not necessarily the fastest path to your ultimate goal - even if it's indeed a path to walk. In either case, it's a job and it's whatever you make it out to be - something that isn't great, isn't necessarily bad either. It can be average. I'm currently making rollators for a living and it's boring industrial work - but I learn to deal with people, manage resources and manpower and, most of all, techniques of making boring things seem more fun and motivating. None of those things will help me much in landing a game development job [i]but[/i], if I do indeed land one, those skillsets can severely improve how I do my job because a lot of these skillsets are about doing an effective job - regardless of what specific tasks you're doing.

As for the OP, if you love the business side of gaming, then GameStop is a great first step. But doing an excellent job is even better, so be sure to do that. It's all on you to shine in your job and do that little extra effort. Do that, and you'll definitely get opportunities beyond your core job description.

Cheers and good luck. [img]http://public.gamedev.net//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img] Edited by DrMadolite

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[quote name='DrMadolite' timestamp='1344180046' post='4966372']
it's all on you to shine in your job and do that little extra effort. Do that, and you'll definitely get opportunities beyond your core job description.
[/quote]

This applies to any job - even a job at McDonalds - whether or not you aspire to working in games.

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[i]On a side note, I live in South Florida. There's a Dunkin Donuts next to a GameStop in my area. I'm close with the manager, so he doesn't mind if I just hang in the store while I wait for friends to show up at DD.[/i]

[i]It's so much fun hearing people...talk about games. Not defending, flame wars, anything like that. [/i]
[i]Seeing kids pick up a Fire Emblem DS Game "This is stupid!"[/i]
[i]Someone picks up Rogue Warrior "Yo, this game looks tight!"[/i]
[i]Mothers coming in and asking the reps (and even sometimes me) on what to buy for their kids.[/i]

[i]It's...neat. Seeing all these different people, that you normally only really see in a game, in forums, or not at all....just shop. [/i]
[i]It's neat. And sometimes when I'm just free writing, I'll start thinking about those people, "Hey, what would they wanna play?"[/i]

[i]This might not get you anywhere drastic, but I love it when I see some people not play a game because it doesn't have MP, or the box art is lame to them.[/i]

[i]Opinion are opinions, that's their right, but it's sometimes cool to absorb 'em.[/i]


Anyway, in my region, it's just a job application (and now it looks to be a background check, too) form to find here. https://gamestopcareerscorp.silkroad.com/GameStopCorporate/EmploymentListings.html

Look at about the third or forth Box (Keyholders and Game Advisers)
I'm not saying don't hand in that Resume (put your name and contact information on it), staple it all together and go to [s]one [/s]as many as you can (my GS's share employees like crazy, don't quite know why).

You might want highlight your fundraising efforts a little more, the stores get noted on their subscriptions and PowerUp sales each month, so you have to be able to respectably highlight that to a customer.

That being said, it looks alright. You might want to format the intro paragraph a little bit better.
I have a professional profile and a personal profile where I separate my job talents from my regular talents. And use TNR 12font or Ariel 10, just so it's a lil' clearer to read.

GOOD LUCK :D

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[quote name='Destin Bales' timestamp='1343884922' post='4965405']
Hi Emark,

I took a quick look at your resume, and while the point is a bit moot now, should you ever decide to try for the Gamestop job again my feedback is:[list]
[*]Make sure your resume shows your love of gaming
[list]
[*]Try adding a quote about games in the footer?
[*]List your hobbies?
[*]Perhaps add an image or logo that shows your love of gaming?
[/list][*]Don't be afraid to [url="http://www.coolinfographics.com/blog/2012/6/15/200-infographic-resumes-an-escalating-trend.html"]get creative[/url]to help yourself stand out
[*]Most importantly, NEVER GIVE UP. If you want to work at Gamestop, apply every month. Try different resumes and strategies. Stay hungry.
[/list]

Best,

Destin
[url="http://www.ineedtomakegames.com"]www.ineedtomakegames.com[/url]
[/quote]
I'll see if I can get something on my resume to show my love for gaming. Also, the graphic resumes is pretty interesting but im not sure if anyone would take them seriously. I do agree i will need to be creative to stand out, I just need to know what. By the way, thanks for the website link

[quote name='Confirm4Crit' timestamp='1344375438' post='4967157']
You might want highlight your fundraising efforts a little more, the stores get noted on their subscriptions and PowerUp sales each month, so you have to be able to respectably highlight that to a customer.

That being said, it looks alright. You might want to format the intro paragraph a little bit better.
I have a professional profile and a personal profile where I separate my job talents from my regular talents. And use TNR 12font or Ariel 10, just so it's a lil' clearer to read.
[/quote]
What do you think I should do to the intro paragraph? I like to show that I have the skills for retail and that I have a great knowledge of video games. Do you think it should be shortened up a bit? Otherwise, great suggestions

Anyway, looks like I will need to do another resume upgrade again. I'll post a revised one as soon as I can figure out what to do with it. Thanks guys

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[quote name='DrMadolite' timestamp='1344180046' post='4966372']
I'm currently making rollators for a living and it's boring industrial work - but I learn to deal with people, manage resources and manpower and, most of all, techniques of making boring things seem more fun and motivating.
[/quote]

[quote name='DrMadolite' timestamp='1344180046' post='4966372']
But doing an excellent job is even better, so be sure to do that. It's all on you to shine in your job and do that little extra effort. Do that, and you'll definitely get opportunities beyond your core job description.
[/quote]

You have a point. Since I started working at Dunkin Donuts, my time there is pretty hectic. Recently, I was scolded by my manager for not being quick enough on sandwich assembling or pressing the wrong buttons on the ovens. Said something about my performance diminishing as well despite getting some praise from some of the customers I served but that's his opinion that I respect. It may be a sign that food service isn't for me and I am better off for retail (already I am considering to resign for a possible Gamestop job) but it is also a sign that I need to do a better job. In my mind however, I don't believe my performance is that bad since I got better serving beverages, I hoping he knows about my pros and his negative comments were meant to get me to do better on my cons.

Case in point: I learned more on dealing with people (both in terms of customers, managers, and co-workers). This experience at least, gives me an idea of a more hectic workplace and I can imagine that the game development offices may not be better when its crunch time. I wonder how would this experience compare to Gamestop however...

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[quote name='emark.mark20' timestamp='1344448423' post='4967460']
1. Recently, I was scolded by my manager for not being quick enough on sandwich assembling or pressing the wrong buttons on the ovens. Said something about my performance diminishing as well
2. despite getting some praise from some of the customers I served
3. but that's his opinion that I respect.
4. already I am considering to resign for a possible Gamestop job)
5. but it is also a sign that I need to do a better job.
6. In my mind however, I don't believe my performance is that bad
7. I hoping he knows about my pros and his negative comments were meant to get me to do better on my cons.
8. I wonder how would this experience compare to Gamestop however...
[/quote]

1. You need to take that kind of criticism seriously and try harder/try smarter.
2. Don't let customer compliments go to your head.
3. Yes - his opinion is the one that's important, because he's the one who will (or won't) give you a good recommendation.
4. Don't do that. Much too soon. I once quit a job after just a few weeks, but only because the pay was so low I couldn't support myself on it. I quit with regrets, and the manager was sorry to see me go.
5. Yes. Do a better job, so you can get a good recommendation when you leave.
6. Dude, your opinion is not as educated as his. He's seen a bunch of people come and go - so he has a stronger basis for comparison and objectivity than you do.
7. Do not expect ever to get praise from a boss in that kind of job. The absence of criticism (or the diminishment of it) has to be praise enough.
8. Fast food is unique. Constant pressure, increasing at mealtimes and when specials are run. I've worked in fast food but I've never worked in a retail job for very long. I imagine the pressures are different. You might want to play Diner Dash to hone your skills.

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[quote name='Tom Sloper' timestamp='1344452554' post='4967482']
1. You need to take that kind of criticism seriously and try harder/try smarter.
2. Don't let customer compliments go to your head.
3. Yes - his opinion is the one that's important, because he's the one who will (or won't) give you a good recommendation.
4. Don't do that. Much too soon. I once quit a job after just a few weeks, but only because the pay was so low I couldn't support myself on it. I quit with regrets, and the manager was sorry to see me go.
5. Yes. Do a better job, so you can get a good recommendation when you leave.
6. Dude, your opinion is not as educated as his. He's seen a bunch of people come and go - so he has a stronger basis for comparison and objectivity than you do.
7. Do not expect ever to get praise from a boss in that kind of job. The absence of criticism (or the diminishment of it) has to be praise enough.
8. Fast food is unique. Constant pressure, increasing at mealtimes and when specials are run. I've worked in fast food but I've never worked in a retail job for very long. I imagine the pressures are different. You might want to play Diner Dash to hone your skills.
[/quote]

Thanks for the advice Tom, I noticed you were in my kind of position once. I haven't mentioned it before but one of the reasons I considered resigning was because my schedule was cut into one day, thus making my next paychecks really lower than my first paycheck from Dunkin. To me, it suggests that he may not want me around . The next day I work would be my chance for redemption, perhaps I would get better hours. I hope things work out well. If not, at least I would learn from my mistakes which should hopefully be beneficial when I go into the games industry.

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