Among the highest priority options, I use weight-based random. So in essence I'm using the priority to divide my options up into categories, and then only selecting from among the most important category.

Sounds like a behavior tree with localized utility :-) I like this approach better. Scales well and it's easy to author -- as you said.

I think BT is more specific than just a "hierarchical framework" that you can plug stuff into, but that's worth as separate discussion.

Alex

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Among the highest priority options, I use weight-based random. So in essence I'm using the priority to divide my options up into categories, and then only selecting from among the most important category.

Sounds like a behavior tree with localized utility :-) I like this approach better. Scales well and it's easy to author -- as you said.

Alex
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While that could be duplicated as a behavior tree with utility-based selector nodes, that almost adds more complication than is necessary. In Kevin's design, all that would be necessary is the addition of a single integer value that represents the "priority" (or category as he referred to it above). When processing the decisions, you check things in a certain priority first... highest to lowest. If there are no priorities 9's, for example, you look for 8's, etc. The difference between this setup and a BT is that those priority numbers (as with anything in a utility-based system) can be modified at runtime by stimuli in the game. So something might not always be a priority 9. Sometimes it might be a 2 and would be checked after all the other higher priorities. The short version is that even the priorities (which are acting as a higher level in the hierarchy) are fluid and reactive to the game dynamics rather than being "this is what we authored so this is what you get."

Anyway, we have wandered off the original topic... the point being there are many ways to do AI. You have to pick the one that suits your needs best. (Which was the point of my article in Game Developer last week.)

"The idea behind utility-based systems is quite simple: Assign a score to each possible action in"


The old problem is coming up with a unified metric to "simply assign a score" (compared to THAT problem the rest is trivial)

Complex environments have too many endcases to have simple evaluation functions. Of course, the complexity of the decision logic increases exponentially with the complexity of the object's potential behaviors and its environment. (throw in handling uncertainty if you want it this be a magnitude harder and for temporally complex actions/results another magnitude).

Risk versus Reward (including Cost) analysis - how does the object's logic .judge a VECTOR of boiled down evaluation results adjusted for current preferences/historic success memories/changeable goal priorities --- to come up with a single value that it can competantly compare to another entirely different possibilities being 'considered'/evaluated?

You can try to find generalizations in the evaluation logic, but those endcases are legion.

Hand normalization (via cohesive judgement across the whole problem/solution space) . -- As usual the required human in the loop is the limitation.

A simple decision space you can probably comprehend and visualize it so as to tweak it into shape, but as it grows more complex it becomes a monster.

Once you get past a certain level of complexity then 'being manageable' flies out the window with ALL the methodologies.

I didnt say dont use utility/priority-based logic, just that it is just the basic overall system (evaluating to one number to allow comparing/picking the 'best' solution) and FINDING that number (judging/evaluating) when you are dealing with a situation full of endcases and exception and multitudes of relevant factors becomes THE significant difficulty.

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Example - your avatar gets injured and suddenly is in a mode/state where getting repaired is of prime importance.

The action of getting a Med-Kit suddenly zooms up as something of priority, but doesnt neccessarily override an easy opportunity to pickup some other useful item right next to the avatar. The 'repair' goal priority might best even be a curve function with the degree of being damaged (input) accelerating exponentially the priority (output) for attempting to achieve that goal. That is assuming the 'being damaged' itself can be expressed as a simple value and isnt a vector of factors itself (broken limbs vs blood loss vs burn damage etc... depending on complexity of your game mechanics).

Similarly, a Med-Kit that can be pathed-to as a shorter/easier movement distance versus another MedKit further/harder/riskier (and that evaluation might include potential for attack from any/all opponents/hazards). And what of a Big Med-Kit vs a Small one -- which one is better in relation to the risk/cost of obtaining it ??? The realistic decisions are not 'simple' and these ARE just for a fairly basic game mechanics (if your goal is to try to make the objects look 'smart' -- or rather NOT extremely 'dumb')

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Players figure out quite quickly opponent behaviors that are simplistic and can often easily make use of them to their 'too easy' advantage.

Seeing objects that aught to be 'intelligent' make stupid moves over and over wont impress them.

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You can start by assigning simplistic numeric evaluation numbers to actions just to get started, and then playtest to see where that simplicity falls down and then start adding more complex evaluations. (Unfortunately, that is almost immediately and in numerous cases).

Now you find you have to add the 'meat' of the AI system and will notice that that 'utility-based system' is only a tiny part of the whole as you add tools like pathing and influence mapping and fuzzy logic to try to get those 'simple numbers'. Suddenly because of the explosion of processing you now have to add culling of evaluated possibilities and time-scheduling of AI to fit resource requirements.

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My real point is that for 'elegance' you might have one nice simple tool sitting there, but for the whole thing to work the rest grows mosterous and ungainly (its why AI is so difficult and most game companies avoid it like the plague)

Someone needs to read my book and watch my GDC lectures where I actually use some of the things you mention as examples. *shrug*