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Displaying large images in DX10

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Hi everyone,
I'm making a custom control in VB.Net which provides image panning, zooming and rotation.It's working the way I like in GDI+ except that it's slow and can't deal with anything over about 4096x4096 pixels. So I decided to try rendering in DirectX instead. It's definitely zippier but there is still an upper limit on image size: now, after column/row 4095 or so, the last column/row is repeated in the render to produce stripes of colour. I gather from [url="http://www.gamedev.net/topic/402455-maximum-texture-size/"]this thread[/url] that the upper size limit is a long known problem. I'm a bit of a dinosaur (WinXPsp3 with DX3d10, 2GB system memory, 256MB video) so I guess I am running into the same thing.

This is my first time using DirectX and I arrived at the following code by taking available examples and stripping out whatever seemed superflous.
[code]
Private Sub InitiateDevice()
Dim pParams As New PresentParameters With {.Windowed = True, .SwapEffect = SwapEffect.Discard, .BackBufferCount = 0}
_Device = New Device(0, DeviceType.Hardware, Me.Handle, CreateFlags.MixedVertexProcessing, pParams)
_Device.SetRenderState(RenderStates.AlphaBlendEnable, True)
_Device.RenderState.SourceBlend = Blend.SourceAlpha
End Sub

Private Function GetTextureFromFile(filename As String) As Texture
Return TextureLoader.FromFile(_Device, filename, _ImageSize.Width, _ImageSize.Height, 0, 0, 0, Pool.Managed, Filter.Linear, Filter.Linear, 0)
End Function

Private Sub Render()
If _Device IsNot Nothing Then
Dim srcRectangle As New Rectangle(Point.Empty, _ImageSize)
Dim destSize As New Size(CInt(_ImageSize.Width * _ZoomFactor), CInt(_ImageSize.Height * _ZoomFactor))
_Device.Clear(ClearFlags.Target, Me.BackColor, 0, 0)
_Device.BeginScene()
Using sprite As New Sprite(_Device)
sprite.Begin(SpriteFlags.AlphaBlend)
sprite.Draw2D(_Texture, srcRectangle, destSize, _
_RotationCentre, _Rotation, _ImageCentre, Color.White)
sprite.End()
End Using
_Device.EndScene()
_Device.Present()
End If
End Sub
[/code]
The identifiers beginning with underscores are defined at class level. I have tried variations on arguments such as Width, Height, Pool and Filter without solving the problem. Assuming there isn't something simple I need to change, can anyone recommend a better technique for handling large images (e.g. > 10K * 10K pixels) with DirectX?

cheers, BB

EDIT: I just found a tool called DirectX Caps Viewer which reveals that my graphics card is indeed limited to a maximum texture size of 4096 * 4096. Can I overcome this limit by dividing large images into multiple textures? If so, can anyone recommend an example? Edited by boops boops
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im not very well versed, but first are you using some kind of 10 on 9 cause last i heard (granted it was several years ago) directx10 couldn't run on xp, and second a 256 mb card wont be able to handle a 32bpp 10k x 10k texture at once, you would have to upload and draw in pieces in a semi synchronous way if it were to work at all( like upload and draw a 2500x2500 texture, then change its coordinates and do it again 15 times and then swap the backbuffer?), i think, but again im not well versed enough with that pipeline to know how it allocates storage between textures and output, but once you are through the shaders even a 1080p 32bpp screen is only like 8mB, so i would think it should fit. otherwise i think it is possible to run the shaders in software on the cpu instead of on the gpu, but again i am not sure what xp would do with that.
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Yeah you would have to break up such a large texture into sub-images. I don't have an example, but I'm sure you can get some inspiration by searching for "tiling engine" or "tilemap", as the problem is similar to that of an overhead 2D game - large background that needs to be tiled/streamed in as you move about. Edited by Starnick
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