Trial Edition. The initial installation of the software is a trial edition. You may convert your trial rights at any time by obtaining a product key from Microsoft. The trial software will present conversion options to you thirty (30) days after you install the trial software. After the expiration of the 30-day trial period, without conversion, the trial software will stop running.[/quote]
Does that mean that express edition is merely a trial edition now? Or am I misreading something?
edit: nm, it says on another page:
After installation, you can try this product for up to 30 days. You must register to obtain a free product key for ongoing use after 30 days.[/quote]
So it looks like its still free and just requires registration.
Visual Studio Express 2012 Yay
In the software license terms it states:
So it looks like its still free and just requires registration.
That's correct, and in-line with how previous express editions have been released; you need to register the software after 30 days, but it's free of charge and can be used for commercial usage.
Just be sure to register them as soon as possible and don't wait until the last minute, when all the VS Express registration servers have been down for a week, and they tell you after e-mailing them that no one even noticed! 
Would be fun to make a Metro style tablet app, but Win 8 tablets seem uber expensive, and I doubt anyone other than early adopters even cares.
Would be fun to make a Metro style tablet app, but Win 8 tablets seem uber expensive, and I doubt anyone other than early adopters even cares.
I'm just in the process of downloading VS2012 Ultimate, I'll post back with my overall first impressions. I know, it's not the Express edition, but hey, somebody's gotta report on the full edition.
I'm also downloading the final build (RTM) of Windows 8 Professional 64-bit, so I'll install both and let ya'll know how they work together. [edit: Putting Windows 8 on my MacBook Pro was a mistake... the touchpad stopped working, and re-installing Boot Camp now makes the OS randomly freeze after a few minutes of use... Now I get the joy of using my fall break to work out the issues]
I'm also downloading the final build (RTM) of Windows 8 Professional 64-bit, so I'll install both and let ya'll know how they work together. [edit: Putting Windows 8 on my MacBook Pro was a mistake... the touchpad stopped working, and re-installing Boot Camp now makes the OS randomly freeze after a few minutes of use... Now I get the joy of using my fall break to work out the issues]
This speaks volumes with my initial impression.
So you think it's slick and easy-to-use....?
I really like VS2012 (using the professional edition) and I really like that the express edition can finally compile 64Bit applications out of the box (although it wasn't hard to set up in VS2010 either: install SDK -> chose it in the project's properties as the platform tools -> done).
What is really a problem is that (until now) applications compiled with VS2012 do not run on WinXP! Yes... WinXP is old and should not be supported anymore. I agree with that. BUT! As a developer of "professional" software (CAD/CFD software in my case) with many customers in Asia (China, Korea) I just have to live with the fact that a very big percentage of my customers use WinXP. So I have to wait for the promised upgrade: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/06/15/10320645.aspx. I just hope it comes before our next release...
What is really a problem is that (until now) applications compiled with VS2012 do not run on WinXP! Yes... WinXP is old and should not be supported anymore. I agree with that. BUT! As a developer of "professional" software (CAD/CFD software in my case) with many customers in Asia (China, Korea) I just have to live with the fact that a very big percentage of my customers use WinXP. So I have to wait for the promised upgrade: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2012/06/15/10320645.aspx. I just hope it comes before our next release...
You are being very vague. Does it speak good or bad volumes, and what is your initial impression?
No... It's just my first time seeing the Metro interface and how it looks.
You are being very vague. Does it speak good or bad volumes, and what is your initial impression?
[quote name='tom_mai78101' timestamp='1349073513' post='4985654']
No... It's just my first time seeing the Metro interface and how it looks.
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Simply slick. That's all.
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