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MattProductions

IDE most comparable to VS

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Hi guys!

I have a solid basis in programming and I'm learning Java at the moment.
I also know C++, VB.net, etc...

My IDE has always been Visual studio (2008-2010-2012), but that doesnt support Java.
What IDE do you guys suggest that is similar to VS (I'll use it for some simple games).

I have used the search option, but most topics were 11-4 years old [img]http://public.gamedev.net//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png[/img]

Thanks!
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A very good and free IDE is [url="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/"]eclipse IDE for java[/url].
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Thanks guys, keep them coming.

I'll definitely check Netbeans out.
I already tried Eclipse, but I was overwhelmed with all options they gave me, just to create a project (I chickened out...)

Moar IDE's, moar thanks!
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And just another question.

What is the difference between Java SE/FX/EE/ME/...
I have to choose a version of Netbeans to download
What's the best one for game development?

Thanks again!
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[quote name='Ashaman73' timestamp='1349702586' post='4987985']
A very good and free IDE is [url="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/"]eclipse IDE for java[/url].
[/quote]

Eclipse is pretty much the Java IDE [b]least [/b]like Visual Studio...
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Visual Studio 2012 IDE is much better. Eclipse/Netbeans are only comperable to Visual Studio 2010 (it had only keyword coloring), while VS2012 also colors #defines, classes, structs, typedefs, there is possibility to configure appearance of methods, local variables, fields, params/args, global variables. I've Googled a lot but VS2012 is best you can get, and it's even free for 'basic' version.
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[quote name='Ripiz' timestamp='1349709580' post='4988014']
I've Googled a lot but VS2012 is best you can get, and it's even free for 'basic' version.
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But still a pretty terrible Java compiler...
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Thanks guys, but now another question.

What is the difference between Java SE/FX/EE/ME/...
I have to choose a version of Netbeans to download
What's the best one for game development?
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[quote name='Ripiz' timestamp='1349709580' post='4988014']
while VS2012 also colors #defines, classes, structs, typedefs, there is possibility to configure appearance of methods, local variables, fields, params/args, global variables.[/quote]
Which is what the average open source IDE had for a couple of years already...
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[quote name='Telastyn' timestamp='1349703381' post='4987993']
[quote name='Ashaman73' timestamp='1349702586' post='4987985']
A very good and free IDE is [url="http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/"]eclipse IDE for java[/url].
[/quote]

Eclipse is pretty much the Java IDE [b]least [/b]like Visual Studio...
[/quote]

If you have a real beast of a machine Eclipse is pretty darn kickass for Java. (Its slow as .... on the average PC though which is by far its biggest flaw), The semi-automatic fixes for common errors and superior code completion is imo the best thing since sliced bread and something i really miss when i work with C# in Visual Studio. I wouldn't mind it being a bit less slow though.
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[quote name='SimonForsman' timestamp='1349718669' post='4988058']
If you have a real beast of a machine Eclipse is pretty darn kickass for Java. (Its slow as .... on the average PC though which is by far its biggest flaw), The semi-automatic fixes for common errors and superior code completion is imo the best thing since sliced bread and something i really miss when i work with C# in Visual Studio. I wouldn't mind it being a bit less slow though.
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I don't doubt it. But at least when I looked at eclipse (maybe 4 years ago), the whole project layout and navigation was closer to [b][i]Emacs[/i][/b] than Visual Studio. I'm not saying anything about its effectiveness, just that as a user interface it is drastically different.
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[quote name='SimonForsman' timestamp='1349718669' post='4988058']If you have a real beast of a machine Eclipse is pretty darn kickass for Java. (Its slow as .... on the average PC though which is by far its biggest flaw) (...) I wouldn't mind it being a bit less slow though.[/quote]Obligatory "Well, its coded in Java!" comment :P

I'm currently using Eclipse. Some of the things are a bit convoluted (right click, fill the screen with options) but I like it, the code completion, warnings and hints with direct links to Oracle Docs are very practical.
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[quote name='!Null' timestamp='1349729122' post='4988111']
Dude InteliJ . it's just like visual studio for java. it's crazy
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Again, I'm voting for the underrated IntelliJ. I think it's even better than VS. It's refactoring tool, code reformatting, and intellisense are superior to Visual Studio.

Here's the link to the Free Community Edition: [url="http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/index.html"]http://www.jetbrains...load/index.html[/url] Edited by alnite
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[quote name='MattProductions' timestamp='1349715613' post='4988038']
Thanks guys, but now another question.

What is the difference between Java SE/FX/EE/ME/...
I have to choose a version of Netbeans to download
What's the best one for game development?
[/quote]

SE = Standard Edition ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Platform,_Standard_Edition"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Platform,_Standard_Edition[/url])
FX = Java FX ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaFX"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaFX[/url])
EE = Enterprise Edition ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_EE"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_EE[/url])
ME = Micro Edition ([url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_ME"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_ME[/url])

I suggest the standard edition.
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I have been using IntelliJ, it is a great IDE created by JetBrains. If you have ever used "ReSharper" for VS, this was created by the same people, oh, and it's free!

http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/ Edited by iXenocider
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[quote name='MichaBen' timestamp='1349716439' post='4988041']
[quote name='Ripiz' timestamp='1349709580' post='4988014']
while VS2012 also colors #defines, classes, structs, typedefs, there is possibility to configure appearance of methods, local variables, fields, params/args, global variables.[/quote]
Which is what the average open source IDE had for a couple of years already...
[/quote]

Not sure in what kind of dream you live, but last time I tried NetBeans and Eclipse it colored only language's keywords.
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[quote name='Ripiz' timestamp='1349791813' post='4988352']
[quote name='MichaBen' timestamp='1349716439' post='4988041']
[quote name='Ripiz' timestamp='1349709580' post='4988014']
while VS2012 also colors #defines, classes, structs, typedefs, there is possibility to configure appearance of methods, local variables, fields, params/args, global variables.[/quote]
Which is what the average open source IDE had for a couple of years already...
[/quote]

Not sure in what kind of dream you live, but last time I tried NetBeans and Eclipse it colored only language's keywords.
[/quote]

This is pretty much categorically untrue. Both have full code aware syntax highlighting and have for ages. Both also make it relatively easy to add custom syntax hightlighting if thats your thing ( http://wiki.netbeans.org/How_to_create_support_for_a_new_language )
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