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PS3 or XBOX 360....?

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[quote name='Hodgman' timestamp='1352887248' post='5000843']
A GTX 660 is about 5 generations of GPU hardware designs ahead of the PS3's RSX, and almost 200 times more powerful in FLOPS.
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And at a price range of $220-$350 in "newegg".

[quote name='Hodgman' timestamp='1352887248' post='5000843']
Even a modern Intel CPU's built in hardware acceleration will give the RSX a run for it's money!
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High end iGPUs, like the HD4000 and Trinity APU's are performing well on 720p+mid and 1080p+low settings it seems. The future is exciting

[quote name='Hodgman' timestamp='1352887248' post='5000843']
That PC spec is definitely aimed at delivering much higher quality than current-gen consoles do.
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I think the problem with how I see it, is that even tho the quality is better it is not really 5 times or 200 times better, graphically it will look better, it should run better. But, the end result is a prettier game that costs much more to experience. Maybe when heterogeous computing kicks off completely, the whole PC gaming experience will improve "automatically" from a console port.

Unless the user already has a desktop, the price to experience current PC games is not exactly cheap. And even then, its still a $200-$300 minimum investment.

BTW, thanks for all the info, Hodgman.
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I was raised with nintendos and I still like playing their games on a console.
I am not sure why, when I play Donkey Kong Country on my SNES, for example, it is a lot of fun but in my computer (using an emulator) it doesn't thrill me at all.
So I like having Nintendo's consoles.

Other than that, action, FPS and RPG games that are more [size=2][i]hardcore [/i][/size]I play on the computer.
With Steam Big Picture out there I would rather save money to build a nice game rig and connect it to the TV than buying an XBox360 or PS3.
Note: Xbox360 controller works great on PC [img]http://public.gamedev.net//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img]
Note2: You can always add your non-steam games to your library.

Of course I am thinking on games that I play more frequently and by myself.
If I want to play Rock Band on PS3 or Just Dance on Xbox360, for example, there is always a friend that have the console and the games [img]http://public.gamedev.net//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img] Edited by kuramayoko10
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[quote name='phantom' timestamp='1352233272' post='4998186']
[quote name='Alpha_ProgDes' timestamp='1352232987' post='4998183']
I have a question though. Is it true that the WiiU is not as powerful as the 360 or PS3?
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This depends on what 'power' you are talking about; no one system is the over all metric of a systems power.

For example, you can have the best GPU in the world but if the CPU can't push the draw calls then it won't matter much beyond 'making more expensive shaders isn't a bottle neck'.
By contrast, as with the PS3, having a good CPU (SPUs are very good at what they do, if not a pain to work with) but a GPU which is a pile of garbage means you can push all the draw calls you want but can't render them.

At some point I should probably check how much knowledge about the Wii-U is in the public domain so that I can properly point out why we are worried about the CPU on it...
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[url="http://www.develop-online.net/news/42614/Call-of-Duty-looks-dramatically-better-on-Wii-U"]So I saw this news article just now.[/url] And it said,

[quote]“The specs are quite different than the competitive systems, much more graphically intensive,” he stated. “If you do a side-by-side comparison you would see that third-party games like Call of Duty look dramatically better on our system.”[/quote]

How much of that is true and how much of that is spin?
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For the PS3 owners... has the online experience gotten any better? It was pretty terrible compared to 360 when I tried it a few years ago. I only kept my PS3 for a few months before giving up on it and just sticking with PC + 360.
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Buy a gaming laptop instead!

You get email, webcam, Internet TV ( 1000s channels ), Internet Radio, surf the whole web, and get most of the greatest game titles as well as more games than offered by PS or Xbox by the thousands.

A laptop is much more portable and will be obsolete much later, too.



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[quote name='tstrimple' timestamp='1354073281' post='5004815']
For the PS3 owners... has the online experience gotten any better? It was pretty terrible compared to 360 when I tried it a few years ago. I only kept my PS3 for a few months before giving up on it and just sticking with PC + 360.
[/quote]The only troubles I've ever had were with specific games. I used to meet up with my group every night, and we'd mess around in games like GTA and Red Dead Redemption, and I do Dark Souls and COD a lot. Never really have issues except in Black Ops, because their net code is FUBAR. It eventually got better in Black Ops, but now Black Ops 2 is going through all the same BS all over again, like they learned nothing the first time.

Fable 2 ran at a sub 720p resolution, but even on my 40 inch tv it never managed to look bad when it was being upscaled to 1080p. Never really had a problem with the resolution on any of my games. Of course it could be better, but it never affected my enjoyment. It's about [b]content[/b], not minor tech specs.

I don't know why people bring tech specs into this? What resolution does Red Dead Redemption run at on PC? Oh, right. [i]None.[/i] Most of my favorite games never made it to the PC, and a lot of the ones that did didn't survive the transition very well.

The PC has a very different gaming culture. So many genres are under represented, or completely absent.
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The best option is a Nintendo console and a PC. You then have the best of both worlds: Fun console gaming and the most powerful hardware that neither the PS3 or 360 can match.
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[quote name='Anri' timestamp='1354142494' post='5005111']
The best option is a Nintendo console and a PC. You then have the best of both worlds: Fun console gaming and the most powerful hardware that neither the PS3 or 360 can match.
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haha, you're kidding right? Nintendo makes the most overrated consoles these days. My 7 year old son doesn't even like the Wii, he prefers the games on the 360.
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[quote name='Daaark' timestamp='1354077726' post='5004840']
What resolution does Red Dead Redemption run at on PC? Oh, right. [i]None.[/i] Most of my favorite games never made it to the PC, and a lot of the ones that did didn't survive the transition very well.
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And what resolution does Starcraft run at on consoles?

What resolution does Halo run at on ps3?

What resolution does God Of War run at on xbox?

All platforms have exclusives.

On the other hand, the pc versions of (off the top of my head) Batman Arkhams, Sleeping Dogs, Call of Duty, Battlefield 3 and Far Cry 3 are all way better looking than the console counterparts.

Not to mention games like WOW or Planetside 2 which you will never see on consoles.

So yeah, horses for courses.
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[quote name='tstrimple' timestamp='1354144649' post='5005118']
[quote name='Anri' timestamp='1354142494' post='5005111']
The best option is a Nintendo console and a PC. You then have the best of both worlds: Fun console gaming and the most powerful hardware that neither the PS3 or 360 can match.
[/quote]

haha, you're kidding right? Nintendo makes the most overrated consoles these days. My 7 year old son doesn't even like the Wii, he prefers the games on the 360.
[/quote]

Overrated? Not really. Just well designed...mostly. o_O Also, neither the 360 or PS3 can hold a candle to the visual delight of a PC gaming rig armed to the teeth with unrivalled hardware...

Whilst all my friends have complained about the 360's RROD and had to obtain replacements, I've been enjoying the reliable Wii and its huge library of Motion control games...which has never failed me. Saying that, I did buy a PS3 to replace my broken Philips Blu-Ray player...

Besides, you can't get Metroid or Zelda for the 360 or PS3. They absolutely rawk! ^_^ Edited by Anri
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[quote name='ChaosEngine' timestamp='1354150082' post='5005155']
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[/quote]I love when people who can't read very well argue my exact point. The point of my post was that everything has exclusives. However, the PC is severely lacking in certain genres, and lacks choice in many others.

[quote]On the other hand, the pc versions of (off the top of my head) Batman Arkhams, Sleeping Dogs, Call of Duty, Battlefield 3 and Far Cry 3 are all way better looking than the console counterparts.[/quote]They aren't better looking, they just run at higher resolutions. Otherwise it's the same colors, the same composition, and the same content.

Likewise, Call Of Duty is funnest on the platform all your friends are playing on, PC or otherwise.

Starcraft and Command and Conquer had Console ports. Starcraft 64 was very highly rated. We have MMO games on the console and even cell phones too.
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[quote name='Daaark' timestamp='1354341830' post='5005947']
[quote name='ChaosEngine' timestamp='1354150082' post='5005155']
On the other hand, the pc versions of (off the top of my head) Batman Arkhams, Sleeping Dogs, Call of Duty, Battlefield 3 and Far Cry 3 are all way better looking than the console counterparts.[/quote]They aren't better looking, they just run at higher resolutions.[/quote]

lolwut?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHAPJulgh0[/media]

[url="http://gamerant.com/...es-dyce-110316/"]‘Battlefield 3? On Lowest PC Settings To Be ‘Similar To Consoles’[/url] Edited by tstrimple
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I bought my brother FarCry 3 for the PS3 yesterday, yet I was surprised it had no motion blur. Is that the case for the PC version, too?
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[quote name='Daaark' timestamp='1354341830' post='5005947']
I love when people who can't read very well argue my exact point. The point of my post was that everything has exclusives.
[/quote]

For context....

[quote name='Daaark' timestamp='1354077726' post='5004840']
What resolution does Red Dead Redemption run at on PC? Oh, right. None. Most of my favorite games never made it to the PC, and a lot of the ones that did didn't survive the transition very well.
[/quote]

Well, you did a pretty terrible job of communicating your "everything has exclusives" point. I don't know how anyone could read that and draw any other conclusion than "PC doesn't have these games".

[quote name='Daaark' timestamp='1354341830' post='5005947']
They aren't better looking, they just run at higher resolutions. Otherwise it's the same colors, the same composition, and the same content.
[/quote]

Wow. I'll leave it to tstrimples example to point out how wrong you are on this, because I don't even know where to start.
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I don't like Nintendo products, well, I've got a 3DS, but usually it's used by my wife. Ok, why. I don't like their idea to limit the hardware and focusing on gameplay experiences (means special controllers etc etc).

Anyway, it is doing very well, a huge boom of sales and that's because their advertising. Nintendo Wii and WiiU are seen as multimedia products for the lounge.

While Xbox and PS3 are still seen as videogame stuff for nerds, unfortunately.

BUT, anyway I prefer Xbox and PS3, I've got both. Exactly, I've got a PS3 and TWO slim Xbox 360 (one is used as multimedia product for the lounge!!).

that's all... buy both, keep them safe. Next gen versions, well, I won't buy them at day one, I would wait probably 6 months or more. So you have time to make the most of the actual gen.
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