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Haha, I knew I couldn't be the first one to discover this... =S

I'd like to point out that this does work on my GTX 295 which doesn't support DirectX 10.1, so it's actually doable with OpenGL but not with DirectX it seems?

I would not recommend using non-linear depth. The precision distribution is not made to work well with floats, and the additional steps all reduce the effective precision. The much improved precision of using eye-space distance can be spent on a higher C value to reduce bleeding. However, you are correct that performance is better thanks to early z rejection before the shader is run. It might be worth using both a color attachment for the eye-space distance and a depth buffer for early z rejection if your scene has lots of overdraw.
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I'd like to point out that this does work on my GTX 295 which doesn't support DirectX 10.1, so it's actually doable with OpenGL but not with DirectX it seems?
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Yeah it was common knowledge that the GTX 200 series supported *most* of the 10.1 feature set, but they never bothered to get it fully compliant.

[quote name='theagentd' timestamp='1353599990' post='5003259']
I would not recommend using non-linear depth. The precision distribution is not made to work well with floats, and the additional steps all reduce the effective precision. The much improved precision of using eye-space distance can be spent on a higher C value to reduce bleeding. However, you are correct that performance is better thanks to early z rejection before the shader is run. It might be worth using both a color attachment for the eye-space distance and a depth buffer for early z rejection if your scene has lots of overdraw.
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Well for orthographic projections (directional lights) the depth value is already linear, and for a perspective projection you can flip the near and far planes if you're using a floating point depth buffer, which mostly balances out the precision issue. But of course, your mileage may vary. [img]http://public.gamedev.net//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img]
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Oh, I didn't know any of that! How lame of Nvidia! I might try that flipping trick too, it sounds interesting! How would I use the flipped depth value? Would I need to use GL_GREATER instead of GL_LESS in my depth test? How would I treat the value when resolving the MSAA depth texture? Do I need to invert it or something?
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For any value from the depth buffer you can convert to a linear depth value (z component of view-space position) by using a few values from the projection matrix. Just follow the math in the matrix multiplication and you can derive it pretty easily. Doing this still works fine with a projection that uses "flipped" clipping planes. So for EVSM you can just render using "flipped" depth (make sure you switch the direction of the depth test), and then when you perform the EVSM converison/MSAA resolve you can convert to a linear depth value right after sampling the depth texture.
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