Hi, I've only been reading these forums for a bit so I hope I'm not making any mistakes posting here. I have a project that I've been playing with. I have a little of it implemented (in PyGame.. not a super performer but easy!) as a tech demo, but it's not really playable or worthwhile yet. I'm just a hobbyist programmer with no real goal other than to make a cool game that strategy gamers will enjoy (not a commercial product).

The game is about space colonization, with a focus on politics plus space & technology. I know a good game design is focused and this isn't totally nailed down yet, but I'd like the player to be a space agency manager in the year 2099 or so. The game borrows aspects of classic strategy games that worked well in Civilization and Crusader Kings, but with a very different setting and plot than most 4X games.

Gameplay would mainly of operations at the agency: you send missions to explore, found new colonies, exploit natural resources, and expand humanity into the solar system. This all happens in a world where there are powerful factions but no dominant power, so politics and influence are especially important. The countries of the world (there aren't too many now!) all have their own space programs and ambitions for the solar system. In addition to the main countries the world is run by "groups" (like corporations) and characters (like presidents). The play is very sandboxy, but as in SimCity there's obviously a goal of expanding and prospering as much as you can. As science fiction goes the game semi-realistic. It will take a long time to travel between planets until your technology is upgraded significantly, and while it will be possible to engineer habitable environments all over the solar system, building in some places will be a real challenge. You'll develop new technologies and build stuff, primarily by contracting out to groups, and each country - including space colonies - has some internal political dynamics to keep things spicy.

Obviously just a vague sketch so far, but these are the main things I've been thinking about. I know the game will change a lot in implementation, but that sounds cool to me. Please give me your feedback: Would you play this game? Are there obvious flaws that would make this game bad? Any suggestions?

Thanks for your advice!

I applaud your concept. I've always been interested in developing and/or playing a similar game.

I would suggest having a look at Starship Corporation. Though it may not have the same scope as your idea (its much more down to ship design with the 'metagame' being the corporation budget), it still has the same approach where this isn't a 4X game about one race to kill them all, and I appreciate this idea.

Good luck!

I hear ya. My plan is to bite off only a little at a time - the pre-alpha can have very basic mechanics, and placeholders for future features, and certainly no good graphics! If nothing else it'll keep my brain occupied for a while. Thanks for the support!

I have experimented with similar design ideas before, and am currently also developing a "grand-strategy" (well, more like a real-time risk with diplomacy sorta thing) game, and my experience is: making abstract(-ish) strategy games fun, while obviously not impossible, is really hard, because you give up on all the "cheap" thrills of action and fancy graphics: you have to focus on gameplay, intellectual immersion, balance.

Another thing to keep in mind, IMO, is that needless complexity is a dangerous trap: try to have every action the player does be a decision, that is, both doing and not doing some action should be related to some outcome (not necessarily linear or even deterministic, though). E.g. if the game requires you to build thing X on every colony for it to function, that's not a decision, it's only needless complexity.

On the theme of Space, while maybe slightly overdone, it does have the nice characteristic of being relatively simple to implement for one person (who, I am assuming, is a coder and designer, not a graphic artist): you can use circles or dots on a mostly black background to represent galaxies, stars, planets or whatever: Much easier than e.g. trying to make good looking terrestrial maps. It also makes it well suited for platforms with less powerful graphics (the web?).

Look up Neptunes Pride. It is the most simplistic, but yet a great space empire building game. It would be a solid base for future expansions.