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# Seeking Advice on Windows IDEs, Cygwin, Windows versions, et. al.

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Apart from what others have said in this topic, Visual Studio is no longer as expensive as what it once was:

http://www.visualstudio.com/products/visual-studio-online-professional-vs

Visual Studio 2013 has went to a subscription based model much like Adobe Creative Suite has in recent times.  Additionally, newer versions of Visual Studio come with Addons that can be added to enhance the IDE and development experience, most do not cost anything.

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Can you create a makefile based project with the MSVC Express edition?

I use cygwin on Windows to set-up a make-based build backbone.

We then support a range of IDEs & debuggers such as Visual Studio, Eclipse, Code-Composer, & Sublime.

If it can shell & run a batch file then we can set-up the environment and launch cygwin/make.

Most IDEs let you type in a regex to parse warnings & errors .. except MSVC.

So we use sed in the build process to reformat compiler warnings & errors into the MSVC style.

Check out Sublime if you want something free. Eclipse is just too ... much of a pig or something, I dunno but I can never stand using it. Maybe it's the silly long startup time though MSVC isn't exactly fast either.

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Can you create a makefile based project with the MSVC Express edition?

My install of VS2013 express includes the "C++/Makefile" project template still, so I assume it still works (I have not actually used it though).
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