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What is your dream weapon upgrade system for a game?

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see my upvotes.

 

i'm with iron chief

 

Pretty sure normal members can't see who upvoted what, FYI. It's a GDnet+/Moderator/Crossbone thing if I remember correctly.

 

Equipment deterioration without fairly cheap repair is awful. If I like a gun or sword, I should be able to keep it going indefinitely without paying exorbitantly in terms of time or resources. STALKER (the original, at least) was terrible about that, you had to just hope you found a new good gun before your current one started to randomly jam. Minecraft lets you repair items, but the cost in XP is ridiculously high in my opinion.

 

Personally, I haven't met a system that was too detailed. I like mixing accessories around to find optimum and interesting combinations. For example, in Modern Warfare 2, I tricked out my m240 (a machine gun low damage per round, but high rate of fire and slightly better accuracy than other machine guns) with a grip to stabilize the aim and a scope (ACOG maybe?). I think I also might have used one of the accuracy player perks, too. Anyway, I ended up with a gun that worked well at long range against initial expectations, since the accuracy problem was nulled out for the most part as long as you could keep the stream of bullets pointed the right way. Does that make sense?

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Makes perfect sense, and is a great example of an easy-to-use weapon custiomization system that allows the player to tweak the performance of a favorite piece of equipment.  I'm not much of a CoD player, but I'm a big fan of the gun addons in it (less enthusiastic about the grind to unlock stuff).  You can't put a grip on your rifle that boosts your HP or anything silly like that, but you can do enough for the gun's attributes that my FAL and my buddy's FAL might be filling different roles in the arsenal.

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Fully customizable statistics is what I want.

 

This is certainly the way to go in most RPGs or Turn Based Strategy Games.

 

Although to do this well, you would still need rules so the player doesn't end up with a severely weak character because the player put too many points in the charm stat and not in the combat stat. Or, they find an exploit and turn their character into a god.

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Repetative use the same way should reach a plateau of skill advancement.(actual use of players skill in-game is  prefered)

 

Using the weapon in different ways/context should have each its own improvement ramp

 

At some point diminishing returns for avancing basic skill  leads to use of better tactics

 

Weapon improvements also should have diminishing returns (even with severe specialization)

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I prefer to have "modifiable skeletons". The skeleton is a weapon type (rifle, shotgun, spear etc.) and then you can add stuff to it. Either as temporal buffs (5 seconds of double damage), spatial buffs (extra damage if fired from a certain region), permanent buffs (which cant be removed). I guess there are more types out there. But the most important thing is that it should not be possible to affect the core balance. I remember crafting a ring in Bethesda's Morrowind that killed anything in the game with 1-4 "touches". A weapons upgrade system should merely add some "flavor" to a weapon, not change it in its core. 

 

An alternative way, if the weapons are high-tech, is to add an adjustment score to the weapon. The player can then adjust how the energy of the weapon should be guided: speed, power, accuracy etc. depending on the situation. Then you can add more "adjustment points" to the weapons with upgrades. 

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I think I have more fun choosing weapons as a means to 'upgrade' my ability to kill.

It was fun back in the nes era Dragon Warrior to come to the next village and invest in either:

A - The stronger weapon (and keep money for armor, potions, etc).

or

B - The uber-master-much-much-stronger weapon

 

This has obviously evolved a lot, but I still find value in how simple the economy ties with having a 'better weapon'. Its also how I feel I do things in real life:

I don't refit my car, I buy a new one when I've got the money and the need. I 'upgrade' from condo to house (I don't turn my condo into a house).

Likewise, I purchase a gun if I want to kill someone, I don't refit my kitchen knife into a potatoe propeller (wait what?)

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