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L. Spiro

Mars-One

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As some may remember I applied for Mars-One some time ago.

With over 200,000 applicants and an average-at-best video I had given up hope.

 

This just in: Only 1,058 people were selected for round 2.

One of them is L. Spiro (that’s me).

 

I am completely floored.  Getting to round 2 is the hard part.  From here out there will be other elimination processes, but if it comes down to physical endurance and health, well my health problems are all slowly going away and will continue to do so if I put more focus on getting back into good health (which I now have motivation to do).

 

 

Perhaps I will be posting here from Mars after all.

I am told their chief medical examiner will contact me within a few days.

 

I haven’t been this excited for anything since finally getting a job in Japan.

Next stop: Mars.

 

Also, we need your support:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mars-one-first-private-mars-mission-in-2018

Every little bit helps.

 

 

L. Spiro

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That's great and all. But do you really want to do this? You do know that you will not be going back to earth right? Well, if you already registered, and even got to round 2 you must know that. I'm not trying to talk you out of it. But I'm little concerned. Could you share little bit more info with us? This is interesting stuff. I would like to know more about this, and more about this project. I wish you good luck and good health :)

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My mind is quite made up (as in decided, not fictional).

I know I will not be coming back, but back to what do I have to come?  I have no earthly attachments.  In the last 10 years I have seen my friends once and my family twice.  If I am going to be alone, I may as well be alone on the journey of a lifetime.

They have Internet and I will still be able to stay in touch and even post here.

 

I have moved around the world several times to keep up the change in pace.  Moving to Mars would be a final change in pace but it would be so major I wouldn’t need any more changes.  Different sky, different moons, different gravity, a life of exploration and discovery, and being part of a major milestone for humankind.

 

I’m alone no matter what.  May as well do all that.

 

Everything you want to know about the project itself is on their site: http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one

 

 

L. Spiro

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I can't help but think that the most unlikely outcome of all is them actually sending someone to Mars. But good luck :)

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Different sky, different moons, different gravity, a life of exploration and discovery, and being part of a major milestone for humankind.

 

Blech, those two little space pebbles are a disgrace to real moons everywhere wink.png

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Fantastic.  I'm jealous, but I'm too old and have too many dependents to even apply, otherwise I'd be there too.  Best of luck getting to the next round.

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First off, congrats to you!

 

Secondly, 

 

"Before they leave the Earth’s atmosphere to travel to Mars, each astronaut will be put through the required eight years of training. They will be isolated from the world for a few months every two years in groups of four in simulation facilities, to learn how they respond to living in close quarters while isolated from all humans except for the three crew members. In addition to the expertise and work experience they must already possess, they have to learn quite a few new skills: physical and electrical repairs to the settlement structures, cultivating crops in confined spaces, and addressing both routine and serious medical issues such as dental upkeep, muscle tears and bone fractures. - See more at: http://www.mars-one.com/mission/humankind-on-mars#sthash.c1naKpky.dpuf"

 

Wow. Is this for real?

 

I can already see a rescue mission from NASA coming...

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1,058 successful applicants? Surely they could have culled another 34.

 

Um, sorry, um, I mean, congratulations! Why, I imagine a thread about the Martian dating scene will be following in due course.

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Anyone else get nervous when the description page of something is written in really terrible english?  Extra-nervous when that thing is also a space shuttle intent on taking human beings to another planet?

 

Extra-extra-nervous when that space shuttle is crowd funded?

 

Extra-extra-extra-nervous if that organization is willing fill that space shuttle with a "Medical Abomination" with no legs?

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Fantastic.  I'm jealous,

I find it amazing I could make it to round 2 of Mars One yet never been able to start a family. In many ways I am jealous the other way around, but either way is a rewarding adventure!
 

Gratz!

First off, congrats to you!

Congratulations!

Gratz!

I mean, congratulations!

Thank you.
 

Wow. Is this for real?

Yes. But no NASA rescue missions; we are already resigned to die on Mars.
 

How about your engine and your firm?

10 years of training while still on Earth gives me plenty of time to finish the engine before I go, but I will still have some programming project to do while on Mars. Probably related to hacking.
And I can forget about starting a company if I am going to Mars.
 

1,058 successful applicants? Surely they could have culled another 34.

At first I wondered from where that arbitrary number came as well, but it makes sense not to prioritize a simple number (which is arbitrary no matter how it is chosen) over “take as many as we need to reasonably guarantee there will be enough left after all the tests to actually have someone to send.”
And lots will be cut.
 

Why, I imagine a thread about the Martian dating scene will be following in due course.

“And then she e-mailed me to say, ‘Before we meet, I need to tell you, I have 3 arms.’”
 

Extra-extra-extra-nervous if that organization is willing fill that space shuttle with a "Medical Abomination" with no legs?

Did I not make it very clear in that topic that that was all for the filming of a TV show?
My legs are fine. I said clearly in that topic another chat room that I was just sitting on my feet (I thought I said I was sitting on my feet here, but looking back it seems everyone understood it was just staged for a TV show and I didn’t need to explain it here).
Come on kids.


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Congratulations. So when will the final selection round happen? They're only planning on sending a handful of people there, aren't they. I imagine they are going to want to keep potential candidates around until the last few months in case anyone happens to want out or gets hit by a bus or whatever.

 

To be completely honest I am rather skeptical that this project will be actually carried out on schedule (or even remotely on schedule, if ever) but if it does, it'll be great achievement for mankind to set foot on another planet, and the first step towards taking control of our solar system before moving on to bigger and better things, like the conquest of our galaxy.. or something. In any case, good luck :)

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Yes. But no NASA rescue missions; we are already resigned to die on Mars.

 

I feel like that's easy to say this now, but it could be a different story if things go wrong and the sh!t hits the fan in some way. When people start dying because of Mars Disease or something :)

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Congratulations. So when will the final selection round happen?

Thank you and not decided.
Phase 2 should end fairly quickly, as I think its only purpose is to immediately weed out anyone who can’t go due to diseases etc.
They seem to be mainly hung up on phase 3 where the remaining among us get to go to their training facility and get to work. They have to make a deal with TV sponsors for that phase so it seems to be taking some time, but it should be finalized this year.
I think they will have it down to a handful in 2015.


I feel like that's easy to say this now, but it could be a different story if things go wrong and the sh!t hits the fan in some way.

Everyone dies, not everyone lives.
Every time I move to a new country that recurring nightmare comes back where I awaken in America and have no job there so no way to get back to Japan/Thailand/France and it is such a terrible dream I awaken shortly after a few minutes of desperation at my situation.
Living a boring normal life is literally one of my worst primal fears.

With no guarantee of a premature death, the choice is obvious for me, but even if I was guaranteed to lose 10 years off my life I would do it. 6 months of such an adventure is worth more than 10 years in a cage.


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I don't want to get too deep, but life is what you make of it. Perhaps you are running away from something? I just think it's a long shot that you'll find it on Mars. Reading that website has me convinced that you've all but signed up for a suicide mission (if it happens) in hopes that at least you'll get to see something cool before you die. However, being dead isn't living either.

 

If this is truly what you want to do then I wish you well, but given some of the things you've said/posted, it seems more like you are depressed and I just don't think it's because you live on earth. Just make sure you aren't doing this because you are trying to run away from something here on earth.

 

Again, I don't know you personally but from the little I've read there seems to be some red flags. I could be wrong, but that's just my observation.

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6 months of such an adventure is worth more than 10 years in a cage.

 

Having lived in a cage just shy of 20 years I can reassure you of one thing, adventure in life is not absent unless you choose it to be so.

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He has made up his mind pretty long ago, so I don't think a few Lounge posts will make him rethink his life, if he needs that at all.

 

And what's wrong with running away, if he's really doing that? Running away from a shit place to live seems pretty reasonable to me. I was running away from living with my parents and from my perspectives in my country, and it was a pretty cool and usable experience. Much better that trying to make something out of that shit.

Okay, Mars is a one way mission, but I can imagine dying for much lesser things than that.

My only fear would be about a mission like that is that it can be actually boring as shit, not something you dream about.

 

But one thing is sure, L.Spiro had thought things through.

 

EDIT: congratulations!

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I don't want to get too deep, but life is what you make of it.

adventure in life is not absent unless you choose it to be so.

Okay, I guess I chose my words poorly (I’ve never approached it from that angle; I just thought others would get it better, but basically it’s me grasping at straws trying to explain why I would do this without being able to understand why some wouldn’t) but that is basically what I meant.

I will make the best of any situation, even if I have to go back to America for some reason. It is just in my nature to see all the good points about whatever life throws my way. That doesn’t mean I don’t see the bad things, I just compartmentalize them and take them for what they are.
Other people value family connections more than I do or have their own personal reasons for one negative side weighing more to them than it does to me, and no one answer I give could explain this away to every single person who has their own reasons for not wanting to do it.

 

some of the things you've said/posted, it seems more like you are depressed and I just don't think it's because you live on earth. Just make sure you aren't doing this because you are trying to run away from something here on earth.

Reading my own post out-of-context I can see that conclusion, but no, I am not depressed (I find it ridiculous to even have to say that).
If anything it is the exact opposite—I’m worried a bit about leaving behind the amazing life I already have. If I don’t make it to the finals in Mars One I will be prepared to return right back to this life (explaining to my bosses about why I am leaving and making a deal to ensure reasonably being hired back, etc.)


“Life is what you make of it” was basically my whole point, just twisted into the context of death on Mars (very bad idea to try to even attempt).
Until now I have accomplished all of my dreams since I was a child because I never stop pursuing them.  Because the quality of your life and what you do with it is entirely in your hands. I am in my favorite city working for an awesome game company on awesome games, plus gaining popularity in media (just finished filming a movie to be released next year). Trust me when I say I am not running from anything, and pretending I have been dealt a crap hand in life would be absolutely insulting to those who really do have it rough.
 
 
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@szecs

 

The "running away" idea isn't about actually running away from a specific place or people. Spiro has moved all over the place (via the post above) and now wants to go to Mars. Spiro seems pretty isolated (talks about not talking with friends or family but once a year). The "running away" is about running from yourself. No matter where someone who has this feeling goes, they can't stay for long before they need to "run away" again. Generally there are core issues and the reason one feels this way is because they are really running away from those issues NOT a given place. The reason they need to keep moving is because wherever you are, there you are smile.png You can't run away from issues that may reside inside of you but one generally gets temporary relieve when they physically move to a totally new place, but slowly those feelings make their way back.

 

That's what I meant by "running away".

 

If you've ever seen the show "Lost", it's what Kate (I think her name was) had and it's actually pretty common.

 

I realize 1 post might not change anything, but I see red flags and it's always a shame when people don't point these out and then after a horrible thing happens we all start pointing them out and saying if only someone would have seen them...

 

 

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After seeing the last post it seems things have been cleared. I think the friends and family connection is the biggest difference here. To each their own in that space.

 

 

It's not that I don't understand why someone would want to go to Mars and live there, but it's the fact that how one goes about that is important. A privately funded Mars trip where it doesn't seem like there is a ton of experience on the team, and no option to return home if one changes their mind (we are human after all), seems a little strange.

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talks about not talking with friends or family but once a year

That may have been out of context. I talk to them all the time, just not see them often.
Virtual contact is good enough for me, and besides this will be an excuse to see them all one last time.

Ultimately anything I said could be taken out of context that way, but really I was just speaking matter-of-factually (as I tend to do here). I can try to make the point that virtual contact is enough for me to get on with my life and it can always be taken to mean “I think I am isolated/depressed”.

 

 

I’m not running away from anything (inside myself or otherwise), I am running towards all of my dreams.  I live in Tokyo because I want to live in Tokyo.

Pursuing my dreams is all I know how to do.

 

 

L. Spiro

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Pursuing my dreams is all I know how to do.

 

So much so that you are willing to risk the pursuit of possible other dreams, that you don't even know you want yet, for this one? One of your sig quotes (taken as is) seems to nail this on the head. There must be something about actually achieving every dream one has set out to accomplish that makes them do less than logical things. You seem like a very logical person.

 

I think your mind is made up but I enjoy taking the other side of things :)

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Well, personally I don't get what's so great about living the rest of your life in tiny bunker, even if it's on Mars, especially when there's a lot more adventurous and exciting places to explore on this planet...but if that is what floats your boat, congratulations!

 

 

Now, that said, I'm gonna be a Grinch now and say that I honestly don't think this will happen. Not colonizing Mars in general I mean, that will probably happen at some point, I mean this private "Mars-One" project coming to fruition. From what I've read, NASA has estimated the cost of such a mission(with the austronauts coming back home, of course) to about 100 billion USD...even if it costs ~10 billion, like the Mars-One people claim, that's..still an awful lot of money for some guys that are currently running an indiegogo campaign for...400K and assess that they'll get most of their funding from running a huge reality TV show of the whole thing. Yeah, I realize the indiegogo thing is just for initial funding and getting some traction, but still...

 

 

But, like I said, congratulations, good luck, and of course let's hope...this(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1188729/) doesn't happen.(hey, someone had to post it!) tongue.pngtongue.png

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