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I''m having a real problem with the Windows version of the GIMP. I just downloaded the program yesterday, so I''m really new to it. Whenever I start playing around with filters, and even some simple stuff, a window pops up that says BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN SOON and doesn''t go away. What is the problem?

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Heh, I haven''t seen that, I wish I had though . I''m not sure what that means, but remember that the GIMP port for windows is somewhat buggy. It has random crashes and memory leaks for me (that''s why I''ll use it in Linux, and not windows, heh). Maybe you should look around the GIMP for Windows webpage or email someone from there?

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The Gimp for Windows is a nasty piece of software. For one it uses non-standard controls (a Windows port of those horrible GTK controls, aren''t they?) that leave an awful lot to be desired. It has random crashes and memory leaks, more so than most people would blame Windows for. It does not associate itself with files properly, leaving file associations in an uncertain state. It is downright painful to use with all those separate windows.

I imagine the author is tucked away in their dark little corner somewhere having a good old chuckle about their funny warning message that is supposed to cover up for their buggy code.

But hey, it''s free. That''s the one thing it has in its favour.

Steve ''Sly'' Williams  Monkey Wrangler  Krome Studios

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GTK isn''t so bad outside of Windows (the port is somewhat crappy). In many WM''s in XFree86 you can group the GIMP''s windows so that they all are treated as one (in Enlightenment, for example). They''re probably like that so you can put them on different desktops (if you''ve used almost any WM you''ll know what I mean). At least someone tried to port it to Windows, that''s better than not at all .

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Time to install Red Hat, then. Bought it packaged with a book a while back and never used it. I''ve been lazily settling for ... (gasp) ... Windows ME.

But GIMP is opensource. Why hasn''t someone other than the guy who wrote the Windows version rewritten it to be more stable?

Now I know we must be scaring away someone who was thinking about using GIMP because he can''t afford Photoshop. I still say go ahead and try it. In the future, the Windows version may be very stable, especially with the harsh demand XP will bring along. For now, the other versions are much better. So do what I did and go buy a book on Red Hat Linux with the OS and GIMP included. You''ll have everything you need.

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Truly, there are more good programs to drawing. PaintshopPro have a nice "evaluation" copy, i like this program (is even better that photoshop), and there are another good programs, i post some free 2d programs in the last month, you can check it.

Gimp = SUX!,also Linux = Sux!, also Opensource = sux!, if hard to find a finest code in opensource, only you can find a buggiest code.


Pixia and PhotoPlus was a good programs for free.


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Hehe.. I think I ran into that error once, but nothing bad happened. I''ve had GIMP for a while and it has always worked great. I use it both on Win98 and Win2K... I''m not sure what your problem might be.

You might want to try the uninstall/re-install thing. Make sure both GIMP and GTK+ install correctly. Make sure you''re using good temp & swap folders.

GIMP rules.

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Eng3d, what''s wrong with you? Blade Runner, you can download the GIMP and try it (since it''s free). The interface takes a while to get used to (it isn''t the standard ''Windows'' like interface), but it is pretty well designed. It does 95% of what Photoshop does, but it is missing a couple features (or maybe I just can''t find them).

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I not wrong!.

A good graphics programs is not the "more-plugineable", is the more easy to use. A pro-cg-artist work hardly with the programs and the mouse, if the interface is really dummy, is hard to work with it.

Of course for rookie-users, they usually find a program with a lot of plugins.. this sux!, usually you use 3 or more plugins, the rest is only scanner/mouse/layer-work


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Actually, I find the GIMP interface to actually be a lot better than PhotoShop. It seems a lot more intuitive with all the functions, since you apply the functions to the image you want (by right clicking on the image) rather than picking from some generic at the top of the screen. Also, the GIMP windowing system allows much more freedom and control over the placement of your tools, images, and dialouge windows (like history, and layers).

I must admit that there aren''t maybe as many plugins/filters/whatever as Photoshop, but there are more avaliable to download (also for free).

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Eng3d, that wasn''t at all what I was complaining about. This is:
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Original post by eng3d
Gimp = SUX!,also Linux = Sux!, also Opensource = sux!, if hard to find a finest code in opensource, only you can find a buggiest code.


It is just FUD. I understand that English isn''t your first language, I''m not trying to fault you on that, maybe you meant something much less severe than what I interpreted, but I doubt it.

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So far Gimps been good, I must say it doesn''t kill a system like Photoshop does, not bad for a free program it makes me fill like chipping in on the program by offering a little programming code to it.

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I''ve played with gimp for windows mainly making textures using the layers. I like the many filters it comes with including fractals. I mean there are tons of filters. I made a knob in the wood pattern using swirl deformation filter and it looked pretty. There''s also script support which I haven''t investigated yet. In theory I could script a texture and send others the script that they could modify. Something like having a generic texture template that could be expanded. I find working with layers easy. The multiply blending function is useful and so are the many different styles for brushes\pens. I made a blood splatter on a rocky wall by creating a bumpmap in bottom layer(optionally lighting it with point light) then put a yellow image on top of it on 2nd layer then drawing blood splatters with number 15 pen style on 3rd layer and multiplying it together with 2nd layer(I think). It came out ok with so little work. I think blending the blood patches might be ok to do.

There''s also a cloud render filter that could be blended(70% opaque) or multiplied with bottom bumpmap layer which results in a nice multi-colored rocky wall. I also had fun with geometric filters i.e. vector imaging. You create a shape in shape editor and then those lines depicting the shape will be converted to brush strokes(I think that''s how it works). There''s also that matrix function that modifies the colors of the original image just like under user filter option in paint shop pro 4.5. Put ones diagonal from upper left to bottom right in the matrix and you can create a nice fire like effect that could be used with wind filter to give it blurred appearance. Anyways, there are lot of options to play with in gimp, I''m surprised how stable the app is. Hasn''t crashed on me yet(1ghz tbird + 128meg ram). There is some problem when browsing through user created filters modules, some show error in a console but can be dismissed without doing anything bad to the main app. P.S. Many filters have preview boxes and that is nice.

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