I want to use octree for object culling. My idea is as follows:


struct Node

{

bool Visible;

AABB Box;

bool IsLeaf;

Node* Children[8];

};

//called only once for objects at init time

Node** Octree::AddObject(AABB box, Node* parent)

{

if (parent->IsLeaf)

return &Node;

if (IntersectAABBAABB(parent->box, box))

{

for (int i=0; i < 8; +++i)

{

if (IntersectAABBAABB(parent->Children->box, box))

AddObject(box, parent);

}

}

}

//update is called everyframe

void Octree::Update()

{

if (IntersectAABBFrustum(parent->box, frustum)

{

parent->visible = true;

for (int i = 0; i < 8; ++i)

{

//move down the tree

.....

//check for box against frustum

..

//.if visible

//set visible bool to true

...

// check it's children and do samething

...

//else if false, set its all children's visible bool to false without checking

}

} else

{

parent->visible = false;

//set all children's visible bool to false without checking

}

}

//get node for this object

Object* house;

Node** houseNode = Octree.AddObject(house.box);

if (*houseNode->Visible)

//draw

I need help, do you see any problems? what should I do when object is inbetween Node AABBs ?

Please give me suggestions/improvements for octree or any other data structure object culling.

I do my terrain culling in hull shader.

Also I got another problem as boxes are not in same space, I think transforming them to world space would result into wrong assumptions about object being in a particular node because AABB in world space does not tightly surround the object.

general approach when objects are shared between node aabb's is to move them up to the parent until they fit into an appropriately sized box. If you find most of your objects are large enough to sit near the top of your tree then you'll lose a lot of benefits of having the octree.

tiny improvement... instead of the isLeaf variable you could just check if children == null.

Edit: sorry, was wrong.

The real question about octree is how achieve the ocree correct when you have object who move ?

You can't regenerate all the octree each frame, a listener is needed to know when object need to check for a change ?

A big thing that strikes me here is the variable bool Node::Visible. There should not be such cache variable or stored data of a visible node. It might be the case for now that you make only single camera queries for rendering purposes, but later on you could have game logic-specific code making queries to the same acceleration structure, i.e. using the structure to do raycasting queries, or "give me objects inside this bounding sphere/box", and so on. It doesn't make sense to hardcode the Octree to contain state pertaining to the world camera.

Instead, I'd make a separate QueryResult object, which contains a vector/hash table of collected visible nodes. Then, when you are about to render:

QueryResult visibleObjects;
octree.FindVisibleObjects(cameraFrustum, &visibleObjects)
sort(visibleObjects, sceneObjectsSortPredicate); 
for (object in visibleObjects)
   render(object);

This collecting pass of scene objects allows you to sort, which an important optimization, i.e. it gives the ability to sort front-to-back for depth, and sort to group objects that use the same material/shader/texture, and so on.

At minimum, if you need to keep that boolean, strongly document the semantics that the bool Node::Visible refers to either the most recent query (effectively making it a cache for the most recent visibility query operation) or rename it to bool Node::VisibleToMainCamera; to signify that the boolean refers to whether the node is visible to the certain specific god camera that the player views the scene through.

Then, I'd replace Node *children[8]; with a Node *children, which I'd allocate with a children = new Node[8]; statement. Also, remove the IsLeaf boolean and replace it with a function IsLeaf() const { return children == nullptr; }

Also, Octree::AddObject does 9 calls to a generic IntersectAABBAABB function. That is a bit excessive, and instead I'd do something like:

Octree::AddObject(Node *node, Object *object, const AABB &objectAABB)
{
   vec center = node->CenterPoint();
   if (objectAABB.maxX < center.x)
   {
     // left half
     if (objectAABB.maxY < center.y)
     {
       // top half
       // test z ...
     }
     else if (objectAABB.minY > center.y)
    {
       // bottom half
       // test z...
    }
   }
   else if (objectAABB.minX > center.x)
   {
     // test y and z.
   }
}
 
Octree::AddObject(Node *node, Object *object, const AABB &objectAABB)
{
  return AddObject(node, object, ComputeObjectAABB(object));
}
 

this form makes one efficient AABB intersection test to place the object AABB in the proper octant, and manage the case where it straddles multiple octants. As was suggested above, there are different ways to handle this:

• support having objects up the tree, and not just in leaves. Objects will be placed in bottommost node they fully fit
• add to multiple children
• add to fixed child e.g. with the top-left rule that was presented above. Then when querying, see the top-left neighbors.
• make the octree what is known as a "loose octree" - there the neighboring octree nodes overlap in volume.

There is no single best way to handle the straddling issue, but they are a bit of "what works best" decision in my experience.

A big thing that strikes me here is the variable bool Node::Visible. There should not be such cache variable or stored data of a visible node. It might be the case for now that you make only single camera queries for rendering purposes, but later on you could have game logic-specific code making queries to the same acceleration structure, i.e. using the structure to do raycasting queries, or "give me objects inside this bounding sphere/box", and so on. It doesn't make sense to hardcode the Octree to contain state pertaining to the world camera.

Instead, I'd make a separate QueryResult object, which contains a vector/hash table of collected visible nodes. Then, when you are about to render:

QueryResult visibleObjects;
octree.FindVisibleObjects(cameraFrustum, &visibleObjects)
sort(visibleObjects, sceneObjectsSortPredicate); 
for (object in visibleObjects)
   render(object);

This collecting pass of scene objects allows you to sort, which an important optimization, i.e. it gives the ability to sort front-to-back for depth, and sort to group objects that use the same material/shader/texture, and so on.

At minimum, if you need to keep that boolean, strongly document the semantics that the bool Node::Visible refers to either the most recent query (effectively making it a cache for the most recent visibility query operation) or rename it to bool Node::VisibleToMainCamera; to signify that the boolean refers to whether the node is visible to the certain specific god camera that the player views the scene through.

Then, I'd replace Node *children[8]; with a Node *children, which I'd allocate with a children = new Node[8]; statement. Also, remove the IsLeaf boolean and replace it with a function IsLeaf() const { return children == nullptr; }

Also, Octree::AddObject does 9 calls to a generic IntersectAABBAABB function. That is a bit excessive, and instead I'd do something like:

Octree::AddObject(Node *node, Object *object, const AABB &objectAABB)
{
   vec center = node->CenterPoint();
   if (objectAABB.maxX < center.x)
   {
     // left half
     if (objectAABB.maxY < center.y)
     {
       // top half
       // test z ...
     }
     else if (objectAABB.minY > center.y)
    {
       // bottom half
       // test z...
    }
   }
   else if (objectAABB.minX > center.x)
   {
     // test y and z.
   }
}
 
Octree::AddObject(Node *node, Object *object, const AABB &objectAABB)
{
  return AddObject(node, object, ComputeObjectAABB(object));
}
 

this form makes one efficient AABB intersection test to place the object AABB in the proper octant, and manage the case where it straddles multiple octants. As was suggested above, there are different ways to handle this:

• support having objects up the tree, and not just in leaves. Objects will be placed in bottommost node they fully fit
• add to multiple children
• add to fixed child e.g. with the top-left rule that was presented above. Then when querying, see the top-left neighbors.
• make the octree what is known as a "loose octree" - there the neighboring octree nodes overlap in volume.

There is no single best way to handle the straddling issue, but they are a bit of "what works best" decision in my experience.

Thanks for this, I'll change it.

EDIT: I've another question,

My octree does a TriangleAABB intersection to find out which triangle lies in which node,

I've about 125000 triangles. By how much time will this octree increase my resource build up time? (I've not yet tested octree.)

void Octree::BuildOctree(OctreeNode* parent, const std::vector<UINT>& indices)
{
size_t triCount = indices.size() / 3;
 
if(triCount < 10000) 
{
parent->IsLeaf = true;
parent->Indices = indices;
}
else
{
parent->IsLeaf = false;
 
XNA::AxisAlignedBox subbox[8];
parent->Subdivide(subbox);
 
for(int i = 0; i < 8; ++i)
{

parent->Children[i] = new OctreeNode();
parent->Children[i]->Bounds = subbox[i];
 
// Find triangles that intersect this node's bounding box.
std::vector<UINT> intersectedTriangleIndices;
for(size_t j = 0; j < triCount; ++j)
{
UINT i0 = indices[j*3+0];
UINT i1 = indices[j*3+1];
UINT i2 = indices[j*3+2];
 
XMVECTOR v0 = XMLoadFloat3(&mVertices[i0]);
XMVECTOR v1 = XMLoadFloat3(&mVertices[i1]);
XMVECTOR v2 = XMLoadFloat3(&mVertices[i2]);
 
if(XNA::IntersectTriangleAxisAlignedBox(v0, v1, v2, &subbox[i]))
{
intersectedTriangleIndices.push_back(i0);
intersectedTriangleIndices.push_back(i1);
intersectedTriangleIndices.push_back(i2);
}
}
 

BuildOctree(parent->Children[i], intersectedTriangleIndices);
}
}
}

PS: my resource build up time is 2 minutes (it was faster on my old laptop)

Hmm, if it takes 2 minutes to build an octree that consists of 125000 triangles, that sounds very slow. Some observations from the code you posted:

for(int i = 0; i < 8; ++i)
{
parent->Children[i] = new OctreeNode();
...
}

As a micro-optimization, you could just refactor so that you can do something like

parent->Children[i] = new OctreeNode[8];