quote:Original post by spillsome
Visual Basic is not a language, it is a software from Microsoft.


Learn C/C++, that is all you need to make games.

this is just my opinion some might not agree with that

Actually, Java can be used with JNI in addition to c++. Some games, such as Vampire, have used this before. As a matter of fact, I think around 90% of the code was in Java. You probably should take time to learn at least one other language than C++, just so that you''ll be more adept in programming theory as well as application.

Ah, but spillsome, you are wrong.
Visual Basic IS a propper programming language, as is visual c++
Just because vb is developed by MS....
VB just has a visual aspect to it which speeds up a lot of the basic
visual tasks, so its handy for quick apps.
But if you use gdi or other api''s you will be able to skip the built in visual
aspect of vb and use he faster better api functions.
And vb5 (proffesional) + versions of vb run on a different engine than previous versions which makes the
code executions faster, so it evens up a bit with c++
Also direct x 8 is supposed to work wit vb so i dont think c++ is a better language, i consider both languages equal.
and vb is more user friendly, but there are some things c++ can do much easier


Anway, if your a beginner, forget about c++, and forget about vb and don worry about direct x (yet)

Learn DarkBASIC (www.DarkBASIC.com) its BASIC, it is designed for 3d games, it has all
the direct x stuff built in for ease of use (you need directx 7 or higher to un db)
You can get some awsome matrix and world editors, AND it was designed with begginers in mind, tutorias and help files are integrated into the compiler for user friendliness.


I think darkbasic rocks, and so far i have not come accross anything better.

quote:Original post by TeraByte
Visual Basic IS a propper programming language, as is visual c++

Nope.. Visual Basic is a RAD IDE, the language itself is BASIC. Just as Delphi is a RAD IDE for Object Pascal. Visual C++ isnt a language neither, C++ is the language and MSVC is the IDE.

I guess what your saying makes sence.

But because the IDE has all thse built in functions to make the visual aspect of programming easier does not make it not a propper language.
However, vb is a bt slow with its graphics functions, thats what you get for ease of use, but when you stop using the built in stuff
and use the api''s directly yu can do almost the exact same things as you can with c++, especially wih vb6 where the execution speed is almost the same as c++.

Anyway, i see what you mean, i guess visual basic is the rad ide for the basic language.

Still, for games programming, nothing beats DarkBASIC, especially if you have a good matrix editor and world editor to ease the job of making terrain.
(Though i guess that depends on personal prefference, but db still rocks!)