You guys should listen to the UnShavenBastard(hehe). You should try avoiding pluging instruments directly into the sound card it might be bad for it. In fact here's what i recommend before you start recording anything.
First go to one of you local pawn shop and pick up a cheap 4 channel mixer. Make sure there's a couple of channels mark with a mic gain on them and a couple of lines ins. Now plug your instruments into the mixer and then record from there.
Here are tips for recording make sure the mixer is patch into the computer(joke just kidding you should have done that already).
Step1:
Most mixer come with a meter on it so before you begin recording something make sure when you are playing your instrument that your sound is peaking at 0 db.
If you go over this point your sound will start clipping and will become very distorted depending how much you push your sound over 0 db. Also if you are lower then 0 db your sound will sound be too quiet to hear. So the lesson here is if want your sound to sound like the way you play it. Think 0db.
Step2
If your recording with a guitar its best to patch your guitar to a guitar amp and then the amp into the mixer. Also if your close to anything that generates e.m.f. like a computer monitor you might get some very unwanted noise so stay far away from it or shut it off when recording.
Anyways if you have some questions about recording I'll be around on this board or you can try to write an email to me at: jmarques@unparallel.net
btw e.m.f. stand for electric magnetic frequency
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Edited by - Black Marq on December 14, 2001 1:46:23 PM
Guitar to Computer Question
hmmm, I have tried to do this with MusicMasterworks to turn the analog signal into midi (www.musicmasterworks.com) but plugin the guitar directlly to the soundboard doesnt work, and the result is a noisy midi file, that has nothing to do with what I play. . .
I will try the Guitar->AMP->Computer, to see what I get, I was worried about frying the motherboard this way
I will try the Guitar->AMP->Computer, to see what I get, I was worried about frying the motherboard this way
quote:Original post by AxeSlash
As for miccing the amp...well, it''s down to personal preference and the quality of your equipment. For me, itmeans that there are more cables, more noise, and more boosting necessary, which I don''t like at all.
I used to get noise, but then I got a better microphone than the one that came with the sound card
Not even a great one, just a £15 ($25?) one. That is placed a few millimetres from the amp. I get no noise whatsoever from it. No boosting or noise reduction necessary. I just make sure the levels are right before I start recording (play a loud chord and ensure the red lights on the recording meter are barely lit.)The only issue I ever get is DC Bias, but I get that whether using the Mic or Line In anyway. I think a better sound card would fix that, but who knows. I just fix it up with Soundforge and make sure to mute the quiet parts.
quote:I used to mic the amp, but found no advantage when compared to using line-out. And if you can afford decent enough kit to mic up the amp, then you may as well buy the pedal which will have all your cabinet and room ambience effects built in to it.
I was the other way round: used to plug my pedal into line out but found that the sound was a bit odd: too much bass, not crisp enough. Might be good for acoustic parts, but for decent distortion, it was lacking, even with the amp simulator on. So back through the amp it went.
quote:I reccomend that if you have the equipment, try out all the options, and discover for yourself which gives you the sound you want.
This is, of course, the best advice, as everyone''s equipment and set-up is different, not to mention their requirements.
This is pretty much the canonical setup for recording guitars:
Take a Shure SM57(costs about 1200NOK, which is around $130), put it on a mic stand and point it to a point roughly 1/3 from the speaker center and slant it slightly outwards to the rim. Keep it about 10 cms from the speaker.
Run it into a decent mic preamp. If you want to feed it into a computer, avoid using the AD converters on the soundcard, since those pretty much suck(and they''re in an extremely noisy environment too). Instead get a soundcard with an S/PDIF input and a decent outboard AD-converter(DAT-players work well for this purpose - they cost a bit, though).
Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey
Take a Shure SM57(costs about 1200NOK, which is around $130), put it on a mic stand and point it to a point roughly 1/3 from the speaker center and slant it slightly outwards to the rim. Keep it about 10 cms from the speaker.
Run it into a decent mic preamp. If you want to feed it into a computer, avoid using the AD converters on the soundcard, since those pretty much suck(and they''re in an extremely noisy environment too). Instead get a soundcard with an S/PDIF input and a decent outboard AD-converter(DAT-players work well for this purpose - they cost a bit, though).
Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey
I''m just getting into computer recording myself, but as a bassist, not a guitarist. For me, it''s quite a bit simpler. I run my active electronic equipped bass directly into my soundcard''s mic input, and record using n-Track. Sounds great for my needs.
For me, it''s quite a bit simpler. I run my active electronic equipped bass directly into my soundcard''s mic input, and record using n-Track. Sounds great for my needs.
it''s all down to personal preference IMO.
There are millions of ways of doing (as demonstrated here), but probably the simplest is GUIT -> FX PEDAL -> SOUDNCARD.
If you going from your amp to your card, then be VERY careful what output you take from the amp. Line-out is best if ti is there. Turn the volume on the amp to ZERO before you play anything in, then gradually increase it while watching the record levels on yer comp.
There are millions of ways of doing (as demonstrated here), but probably the simplest is GUIT -> FX PEDAL -> SOUDNCARD.
If you going from your amp to your card, then be VERY careful what output you take from the amp. Line-out is best if ti is there. Turn the volume on the amp to ZERO before you play anything in, then gradually increase it while watching the record levels on yer comp.
MIDI is very relevant to this discussion... whoever said that above this post needs more experience in the wonderful world of MIDI and guitars.
Roland VK2A and The Roland GR33 work very very well at converting Guitar to MIDI data right into cakewalk or your favorite MIDI software.
The Roland VK2A is a pickup that you can get for about 300 bucks, and get it installed for 70 bucks... Then, plug the GK cord right into the GR33, and midiout right into your USB or MIDI/JOYSTick port on your soundcard.
They work especially well with Fender guitars.
It is 6 string polyphony and captures all pitch shift and nuances of your playing style. while it is not perfect, it is great for capturing midi data.
Mic''ing GuitarAmps is a different story.
www.rolandus.com
Roland VK2A and The Roland GR33 work very very well at converting Guitar to MIDI data right into cakewalk or your favorite MIDI software.
The Roland VK2A is a pickup that you can get for about 300 bucks, and get it installed for 70 bucks... Then, plug the GK cord right into the GR33, and midiout right into your USB or MIDI/JOYSTick port on your soundcard.
They work especially well with Fender guitars.
It is 6 string polyphony and captures all pitch shift and nuances of your playing style. while it is not perfect, it is great for capturing midi data.
Mic''ing GuitarAmps is a different story.
www.rolandus.com
Check out www.echoaudio.com
They have some neat devices that allow high-quality digitization of an analog signal comming over a guitar cable.
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Herb M. (mdfmKoRn)
s3202@attbi.com
They have some neat devices that allow high-quality digitization of an analog signal comming over a guitar cable.
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Herb M. (mdfmKoRn)
s3202@attbi.com
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