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Unity Best Laptop for Game Development and Programming?

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Greetings!
I know this question may have been asked a thousand times before, but I'm gonna be a bit more specific about my question.
So in a few months I'm going to college(hopefully...) - computer science. So currently I'm using Asus ROG G75JW. Currently it's specs are:

-i7 4700HQ 2.4GHz

-8GB RAM

-GTX 765M (4gb)

-no ssd

A decent laptop but battery became quite powerhungry and it's heave like a fkin rhino ... So i'm thinking of buying a lighter computer. I need one with decent specs such as:
-Intel i5 6300HQ or higher around 2,6+ ghz prefferable
-8GB DDR4 RAM (I can add one in later if neccesary so an extra slot would be prefferable)
-nVidia GeForceGTX 960M (or something as solid as this one - But i'm an nvidia fanboy)
-SSD not required since i got one for my prom, so it's a moneysaver here

 

I'm willing to spend up to 1000€.

And since i'm from europe amazon wont count but you can post it's links and i compare the price.

I need a good workstation on which I can develop and test games. I'm mostly using Unity for development, Blender for models and Visual Studio for programming. I want something that can last a few lectures without shutting down on me so lets say a 4-6 cell battery. Currently I was looking at ASUS G551VW, which has solic specs:

-intel i5 6300 HQ

-8GB DDR4 RAM

-GTX 960M and

-6cell battery

 

I would like to know from your personal opinion or advice, which laptop could suit my standards and get me through college? Do you have anything that's better or equal to the one i posted for less money ? Please let me know :) Thanks in advance!
 

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http://www.gamedev.net/topic/651967-best-laptop-for-game-development/

 

I'm posting this only because, (based on my skimming of it) offers pretty decent advice.

 

It all boils down to what type of games your planning on making, and that being said, no matter what games you plan on making, avoid laptops 

whose chipsets ONLY offer an Intel Integrated GPU solution.

 

I have horror stories about the half-baked drivers Intel pushes out for those things, Iris may be different (And not entirely sure if Iris has made it's way to PCs, or is an exclusive to MAC machines, I'd have to check), but I wouldn't bank on it.

 

 

Newegg would be a good place to start. But insofar as dedicated gpu solutions in laptops, i'm not on the up, and up on the scene, but usually dedicated GPUs are

terrible for battery life, and can drain laptops within a couple of hours maybe far less depending on the load. This is why laptops usually come with a Intel Integrated Solution

as well as a dedicated solution, an AMD equivalent could be an AMD APU, and a dedicated Radeon co-processor.

 

This IC topology on the motherboard allows you to effectively toggle between two different modes. Battery Saver (In the class room, or in the office) falling back to the onboard acceleration, or High-Perfomance mode when it falls back to the dedicated solution.

 

If anybody feels the need to correct me, go for it. I haven't been on the laptop scene in awhile, just speaking off of memory.

 

EDIT: Frob's advise is much better than mine. Certain instructors I had at NIU wouldn't even let you bring in your own laptop. Even for certain CS courses.

 

Marcus

Edited by markypooch

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Buy a PC if you can. 

I've just bought Asus ROG G551JW about 3 weeks ago(I've added 8GB more RAM). It works flawlessly (so far). The 15'' screen isn't a big issue to me as I hook it to my 24'' monitor, and if when need (which is rarely) I unplug it and I'm still able to code on the laptop's screen.

I would like to know from your personal opinion or advice, which laptop could suit my standards and get me through college?

A 350EUR laptop could easily  do that job,

Edited by imoogiBG

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Hi! Thanks for your responses. The problem is that the University has some issues with your work. For instance: If I were to program on my computer it would have troubles running the program on their's. And I had a little chat with my friends who attended to this university and everyone of them said I should get a laptop. I also took mac out of consideration because i grew fond of Microsoft Visual Studio ... Plus I'd be paying 30% more for 15 % worse specifications.
 

@markypooch I saw that thread, but when I realised it's kinda old I tried to avoid it. I'll take it to consideration! As for what types of game I would like to develop - Me and my friends are starting up a project of an open world survival game - more or less post-apocalyptic but no futuristic shizzle, adding as much content as possible - from parkour, to housing. So it's kind of a massive project and I would like something that could load up stuff nicely, without taking 35 minutes to import my assest before I can start doing something,

 

@frob This university is more or less based on what you can acomplis in their school. I'd kind of rather have my notes on my computer, then to get home, put them somewhere and never actually find them again ... This was my story through highschool so far.

 

 

@imoogiBG How  "carry-friendly" is this ROG you bought? Is it heavy to carry around for a few hours?
As for "Buy a PC if you can" goes. I would love to, trust me. I'd kill to have a PC, but I feel like now is not the time to own one. I need something portable so I can work on everywhere I am. Be that on university, at some friends house... You name it. That's why I'm trying to avoid it for the next couple of years. But surely when I'm done, there's no doubt about buying one ...

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Just my 2 cents:

 

Laptops which have high performance are usually very heavy as well, a 2kg laptop would not be good enough for any 3D programming on the other hand a high performance laptop is usually very very heavy and could be a problem to carry 4-5 hours. Also keep in mind that the weights mentioned on websites are based on laptop without battery and without the charger. Those high performance laptops usually have very heavy batteries and very very heavy chargers, I personally use a MSI Dragon Edition II which most of the time feels like carrying a desktop on my back =)

Edited by Stealthius

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Laptops which have high performance are usually very heavy as well, a 2kg laptop would not be good enough for any 3D programming on the other hand a high performance laptop is usually very very heavy and could be a problem to carry 4-5 hours. Also keep in mind that the weights mentioned on websites are based on laptop without battery and without the charger. Those high performance laptops usually have very heavy batteries and very very heavy chargers, I personally use a MSI Dragon Edition II which most of the time feels like carrying a desktop on my back =)

My work laptop is a 14" instead of 17.3" like that one, weighs less than half as much (including the charger, it's 2kg) and has a better i7 and GeForce than that one :wink:

 

If you want a portable machine, you just gotta buy a decently-sized one. 17" laptops always weigh as much as a bag of bricks, even if they don't have great performance.

That said, a when comparing a 17" and 14" laptop with the same hardware, the 17" will usually be a lot more affordable (and has a much nicer screen if you're not after portability)! Cramming performance into a small package comes with a price tag.

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I'm not sure about respecting the $1000 price limit, but you can save a lot of bulk on high-end laptops by going for the few 15''-17'' models that, like small "ultrabooks", don't have an optical drive. I've seen at least a MSI gaming machine of this sort.

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@imoogiBG How  "carry-friendly" is this ROG you bought? Is it heavy to carry around for a few hours?

It's kind of heavy-ish, but i think it's not going to be a problem.

 

EDIT: yes it is ROG with aluminium screen shield(it was probably a mistake as I gave 50EUR for that shield).

Edited by imoogiBG

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My work laptop is a 14" instead of 17.3" like that one, weighs less than half as much (including the charger, it's 2kg) and has a better i7 and GeForce than that one :wink:

 

 

May I ask which laptop you have at work ? I don't mind 14" screen. I'd buy a second screen eitherway ...

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I just went through Baylor University using 17.3'' MSI gaming laptop (was easily able to handle the graphics/engine courses, etc.) and it cost around $1200. Has an integrated graphics card as well as an Nvidia GTX970M (which was WAY more than I actually ended up needing). Don't know if that helps you much.

 

Anywho, was just gonna suggest that, as for the notes, you may wanna try grabbing a rocketbook. They'll be releasing over the summer and it lets you take notes on paper (ensuring you pay attention in class like the studies frob mentioned), but also lets you upload the images to cloud services and then clear all the pages by microwaving the book for 4 minutes. Pretty nifty concept.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rocketbook-wave-cloud-ready-microwavable-notebook#/

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Well, small screen size can be better for portability but also have to keep in mind about cooling infrastructure which can be problematic in smaller ones. On my own I'd recommend a 15.6" laptop, my must have is IPS screen but might not be crucial in case of extra monitor.

 

I am keeping an eye on Dell 7559 laptops nowadays but not sure if available there or price is fine.

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