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I'm shopping for a new PC for DX development.

 

What should I look for?

 

I'm planning on a i7 6700K 4core @4.2Ghz, and a GTX 1080.

 

I'm thinking of getting a 1Tb SSD drive.  i have a 500G ata drive, and am only using 2/3rds of it right now.

 

I'm also thinking about getting the on-board SSD for the OS, as well as the 1Tb SSD drive for everything else, and no ata drive. no problemo? or bad idea?

 

I assume I should get the intel overclock insurance?

 

And heat sink glue of course.

 

What about the foam filled case for shipping?

 

what about blue ray? might as well if its cheap?

 

flash card readers? other gizmos i should consider?

 

a basic i7 6700K gtx 1080 box is looking to be in the $1700 to $1900 range.

 

and what about a monitor? right now i have a 1600x900 flatscreen LCD.

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This looks more like a gaming PC. For DirectX development all you need is a potato with the Target API of your choice. Some really low-end GPUs aside (Think intel hd) it's actually not a bad strategy to tune your projects to run well on systems running a *50/*40 gpu, and lower end processors.

 

I do recommend a monitor upgrade if your going with that GPU. Otherwise you can just settle on < 1060, and probably be fine at 60fps on ultra in most titles. Basically no point in putting a 425cc big block in a hot rod, and only taking it on Sunday drives to church in busy commutes.

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You should upgrade to a 27" 2560 or 32" UHD Dell UltraSharp or similar IPS display. Better yet, buy two. The 27" 2560s are running around $400 right now, I believe.

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I'm also thinking about getting the on-board SSD for the OS, as well as the 1Tb SSD drive for everything else, and no ata drive. no problemo? or bad idea?


No problemo. My home PC has a 240GB SSD for the OS and apps and a 960GB SSD for games and my hobby projects. It works great.

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I went exclusively SSD a few years back; the only downside I can see is that at the rate prices are falling, you'll always be able to get a better deal if you wait a few months.  Otherwise I can't foresee myself ever going back to spinning pieces of rusty iron.

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You might want to consider going for more CPU cores. One option would be something like the the i7 6800K, which has 6 cores. The extra cores can help significantly with compile times, as the compilation process is easy to split across multiple cores (although it won't help link times).

 

You do sacrifice clock speed to get the extra cores though, so they aren't always faster, and they are more expensive.

 

Here's a review of the latest set of desktop CPUs with 6+ cores: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10337/the-intel-broadwell-e-review-core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-tested-up-to-10-cores

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although it won't help link times

VS 2015 now uses multicore for linking (I can see 100% utilization on 4 cores for 1 instance of link.exe).

I do not know when they added this feature, but VS 2015 Update 3 do it well! :)

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I personally would go for an X99 platform build. Its close(ish) to the cost of a 6700k and a Z170 board but you get 2 more cores for workstation tasks. 

 

Basically the 6700k would perform better in a gaming workload as it as much better single core performance but anything to do with a multithreaded workflow a 6800k or 6850k does a fair bit better in any multithreaded workload. http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-6950x-6900k-6850k-and-6800k-processor-review,9.html

 

Also as Promit stated 2560x1440 resolution monitors are extremely nice to have, as well as having multiple monitors can help boost your productivity. I personally use 2 BenQ GW2765 monitors and a BenQ XL2730Z. The GW2765's are fairly cheap too (also they're an IPS panel so their colour reproduction is fantastic). I payed $400 CAD a piece for mine but assuming you're using US currency they're about $329 USD a piece at the moment. http://pcpartpicker.com/product/YZn2FT/benq-monitor-gw2765ht

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This looks more like a gaming PC.

 

Evaluation of competitor's products is a necessary part of any business.  a casual survey indicates an i5 6600K and a GTX970 are the highest minimum specs for PC titles released so far in 2016.  If the competition has that kind of hardware spec to work with, maybe I should too.   This rig should meet minimum spec for 2-3, or maybe even 3-4 years.

 

 

 

For DirectX development all you need is a potato with the Target API of your choice.

 

But you still need the target platform for testing. 

 

 

 

Some really low-end GPUs aside (Think intel hd) it's actually not a bad strategy to tune your projects to run well on systems running a *50/*40 gpu, and lower end processors.

 

I won't be requiring  4 cores, 4.2Ghz, or a GTX1080 in my current projects.  But I will be requiring more than an AMD 1.3Ghz E300 and AMD HD6310 (what I'm using now), at least for Caveman 3.0.

 

If i went 2 core multi-thread with background terrain chunk and collision map generation on the second thread, sure, i could probably get it to run on a dual core @ 1.3Ghz.   But 1.3Ghz is a joke these days, so why bother? its time for a new PC.

 

Something like half the folks on the steam hardware survey are running 4 cores at 3Ghz and a gtx900 series card or better.

 

 

 

I do recommend a monitor upgrade if your going with that GPU. Otherwise you can just settle on < 1060, and probably be fine at 60fps on ultra in most titles.

 

So i can spring for a big screen or suffer along with what i have, eh? that's what i figured. 

 

 

 

Basically no point in putting a 425cc big block in a hot rod, and only taking it on Sunday drives to church in busy commutes.

 

In real life i put a 688Hp, 489 CID (8.0 liter) big block in a chevelle and  drove it to 7-11 for cigarettes! <g>.


The 27" 2560s are running around $400 right now,

 

I hadn't really started looking at monitors yet, but i did notice prices seemed a bit lower than i expected.  

 

 

What about these 3 foot wide curved screens?  any good?   seems like it might be a little weird to use for coding....


 

 

the only downside I can see is that at the rate prices are falling, you'll always be able to get a better deal if you wait a few months.

 

Tell me about it!

 

AMD just cut MSRP on their 460 and 470 cards....     Zen is about to come out....    there's always something better or cheaper due out in 6 months.  But you have to buy sometime.  I guess I'm sort of betting Zen won't outdo the i7 6700K - maybe / probably a safe bet.

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You might want to consider going for more CPU cores.

 

I don't do a lot of mutli-core stuff with apps, just a little modeling in blender. And my multitasking is limited to the IDE and the todo list (notepad or wordpad) at the same time. Cores will only help on compiles. all ~150,000 lines of Caveman 3.0 compile in maybe 15 seconds.  But the link is about 2 minutes.

 

Once again, its a bet of sorts.   In this case I'm betting that games won't go to 6 core minimum required in the next 3-4 years.  I'm trying to spend no more than necessary to remain productive and competitive long term. I can live without lots of cores for development as long as the tools don't require them. But i do need a rig i can use to at least see what the jones's are doing, even if i can't always keep up with them.   Right now, the jones would be defined as battlefield 1, with an i5 6600K required, and Forza Horizon 3 and Halo 5, with a GTX 970 required.  BTW Forza also requires 3.4 Ghz or better minimum.

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You do sacrifice clock speed to get the extra cores though, so they aren't always faster, and they are more expensive.

 

For games, clock speed seems to be more important than cores, at least for the moment.   Once clock speeds max out, more cores will be the next direction to grow.

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Evaluation of competitor's products is a necessary part of any business.  a casual survey indicates an i5 6600K and a GTX970 are the highest minimum specs for PC titles released so far in 2016.  If the competition has that kind of hardware spec to work with, maybe I should too.   This rig should meet minimum spec for 2-3, or maybe even 3-4 years.

 

Your logic doesn't pan out. If anything, if your competitors only have those rigs to work with, than they have no idea how their application would perform on another common GPU lineup, i.e. the GTX 750ti/950/1050(ti). Incidentally I keep an extra low-end rig around for that purpose. As you've stated your self, your games minimum requirements should be nowhere near these specifications unless you're actually developing a AAA title, or throwing everything, and the kitchen sink at it terms of bleeding edge technologies. Which, once again, most independent developers don't do.

 

Once again, your choice of hardware is great for a Gaming PC which happens to double purpose as a development box. But, I'm pretty sure the title for this thread states, "PC for DX development ". Not, "PC for general purpose development/next gen gaming".

 

 

But you still need the target platform for testing.

 

Right, most indie games should be targeted to the masses. That's not to say your game should have to compromise on fidelity. And, sure. A few years from now a GTX 970 is gonna be pretty low end. But, right now, some people can't justify more than $100 on a video card, trust me, not everyone has expendable cash.

 

 

In real life i put a 688Hp, 489 CID (8.0 liter) big block in a chevelle and  drove it to 7-11 for cigarettes!

 

Is that all you use that Chevelle for? You seemed to have missed my point entirely.

 

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But, I'm pretty sure the title for this thread states, "PC for DX development ". Not, "PC for general purpose development/next gen gaming".

 

Yes, technically speaking the PC is necessary for testing and product evaluation, not development.  But since I consider testing part of development....

 

If you can't even run the code you just wrote on the PC you're using for development to see if its fast enough, and its your only PC, you can't even really do development.

 

All you can do is churn out untested code that has no syntax errors (IE compiles).  

 

I consider unit, path, and integration testing to be part of the coder's responsibility - apparently unlike many folks.    

 

So the coder must have access to the target platform for testing.  

 

Preferably, they develop on a PC that meets minimum spec,. so they don't have to use a second PC for testing.

 

 

 

Right now the only PC I have is below minimum spec for the games I'm building, and won't even run newer titles at all.

 

I need a rig that meets minimum specs for my games for testing purposes, and a rig that meets minimum specs of new titles for evaluating the competition.

 

Would you be happier if I said for DX development and game testing?

 

This is getting silly mincing over words like this.

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Is that all you use that Chevelle for? You seemed to have missed my point entirely.

 

Its a street rod. A convertible. Setup as a road racer (think: NASCAR at Watkins Glenn - IE you have to turn both left AND right). 16 inch wide tires on all four corners. Eibach springs, Koni shocks,  huge sway bars.    A high nines car if setup for the quarter mile, and the engine is good for 250MPH top end in a vette body setup for the salt flats. But i use it to power my "self propelled stereo" - 720 clean watts of JBL gear driven by alpine head units and EQs. . The entire rear seat has been replaced with a subwoofer box. So now its a two seat roadster.   A high nines car requires a roll cage as safety equipment on most tracks.  Since its a convertible street car, I don't want to put a cage in it. Ever seen a convertible with a full cage and the top down? it looks kind of silly. So my street car is "too fast" for the 1/4 mile track - unless i put in a roll cage.  And that's why i only use it as a "grocery getter".

 

But i get you point: no sense in a hi rez card without a high rez monitor to go with it.

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You don't need Intel overclock insurance, whatever that is.

 

 

Haven't checking into it thoroughly, but it seems to be some sort of insurance from Intel in case you overclock a bad chip and it fries. 

 

If they insure against it, then it must be possible for it to happen. Or maybe its just a variation on the old "extended service plan" scam.  IE play us extra in case it fails under normal use during its normal life expectancy.  IE in case its junk.

 

Also your development mouse shouldd not have a scroll wheel because some of your players might not have it as well.

 

Wow, that's a toughie!   A lot of games assume a mouse wheel - and a third mouse button.  Caveman 3.0 does. but they can be re-mapped. But i'd sure hate to have to dodge with no middle mouse button.  My middle mouse button was broken when I first implemented dodge in Caveman.   ALT-WASD (or any key + WASD) is a LOT harder than middle mouse button + WASD.

 

I think middle mouse button and wheel will have to be assumed, but re-map-able. or have alternate input such as numpad + and -,   as well as mouse wheel to zoom.

 

In the end, you can only go so low before you have to start compromising the design.  running on lower end PCs is an admirable goal, as it increases the potential user base. But compromising the game design to reach users with lower end hardware is putting profits before quality (or dollars before art).  That's really not the way Rockland does things.   Rockland is more about the art and less about the money.  I've discovered that if you concentrate on making as good a game as possible first, with all other considerations second, you tend to get better results - and more sales. 

 

Rome was not built in a day.

 

and

 

You have to break a few eggs to make a real mayonnaise.

 

Compromise is against my religion - I'm into having my cake and eating it too.   Often times in game development, with a little careful thought, you can find a clever way to accomplish that.

 

But enough of my philosophy that games should be art first and product second.

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You don't need Intel overclock insurance, whatever that is.

 

 

Haven't checking into it thoroughly, but it seems to be some sort of insurance from Intel in case you overclock a bad chip and it fries. 

 

If they insure against it, then it must be possible for it to happen. Or maybe its just a variation on the old "extended service plan" scam.  IE play us extra in case it fails under normal use during its normal life expectancy.  IE in case its junk.

 

 

You don't need to manually overclock anyways. If you do it's pretty easy not to fry it by sticking to recommended volt and temp limits anyway. Don't bother. Just use PC Partpicker to get a gaming PC config.

 

What you listed in the OP is fine. Though make sure to get a better monitor as a GTX1080 is wasted at 900p. I'd recommended 2560x1440 these days.

Also don't bother with a blu-ray drive - you need paid software in order to play blu-rays anyway. You don't need 'heat sink glue', also known as TIM (thermal interface material) or thermal paste if you buy a retail CPU as it will come with the OEM CPU cooler with pre-applied TIM. Yes you should just use SSDs, consider looking at NVMe drives for your OS/apps drive for the best performance if the budget allows (though definitely not necessary).

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Just use PC Partpicker to get a gaming PC config.

 

That's a name thats popped up on my radar a few times while looking for rigs. 

 

Some of the other ones like iBuyPower and CyberPowerPC  offer 2 levels of overclocking as part of the build, and also offer the intel insurance.

 

I'll add PCPartsPicker to the list of possible vendors.

 

You don't need 'heat sink glue', also known as TIM (thermal interface material) or thermal paste if you buy a retail CPU as it will come with the OEM CPU cooler with pre-applied

 

Actually, a number of them offer aftermarket hipo coolers as stock equipment, and the OEM unit is a downgrade option.

 

consider looking at NVMe drives for your OS/apps drive for the best performance

 

 

real time games that page from disk are the only place i really need fast hard drive performance.  For everything else its simply nice, but not really that important.   Supposedly,  SSDs are on the order of 10x the speed of ATAs, which is plenty enough of a speedup for just windows, visual studio, blender, paint.net, audacity, and anvil studio, which are about the only apps I use.  Yeah, I'm still developing with free tools.  It helps me afford an i7 6700K chip!  <g>.

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I'll add PCPartsPicker to the list of possible vendors.

PCPartPicker doesn't make computers... its a website used to pick parts when building your own PC.

 

Also if you want prebuilt I came across these two recently.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/467635/G313_Desktop_Computer

http://www.microcenter.com/product/467612/G418_Desktop_Computer

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Just use PC Partpicker to get a gaming PC config.

 

That's a name thats popped up on my radar a few times while looking for rigs. 

 

Some of the other ones like iBuyPower and CyberPowerPC  offer 2 levels of overclocking as part of the build, and also offer the intel insurance.

 

I'll add PCPartsPicker to the list of possible vendors.

 

 

 

You don't need 'heat sink glue', also known as TIM (thermal interface material) or thermal paste if you buy a retail CPU as it will come with the OEM CPU cooler with pre-applied

 

Actually, a number of them offer aftermarket hipo coolers as stock equipment, and the OEM unit is a downgrade option.

 

 

 

consider looking at NVMe drives for your OS/apps drive for the best performance

 

 

real time games that page from disk are the only place i really need fast hard drive performance.  For everything else its simply nice, but not really that important.   Supposedly,  SSDs are on the order of 10x the speed of ATAs, which is plenty enough of a speedup for just windows, visual studio, blender, paint.net, audacity, and anvil studio, which are about the only apps I use.  Yeah, I'm still developing with free tools.  It helps me afford an i7 6700K chip!  <g>.

 

 

Oh are you looking at pre-built systems? I thought you were building your own.

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Oh are you looking at pre-built systems? I thought you were building your own.

 

I've built my own in the past, and used to built custom PCs for OSU College of Medicine.  But I think I'd rather turn key and go - i'm feeling lazy.

 

One of the biggest problems with build your own is figuring out the best parts.

 

An example: Heat sink glue.    

 

From http://techbuyersguru.com/cpu-cooler-buyers-guide

 

"The three best products in terms of performance, usability, and longevity are Gelid GC-ExtremeNoctua NT-H1, and Arctic MX-4. Which product doesn't make the list? Arctic Silver 5. Despite outselling all other TIMs combined, it is, in a word, garbage. Do us a favor and don't buy it when it pops up as a recommended product at checkout!"

 

yet arctic silver 5 is the top rated product on pcpartpicker.com.

 

granted, i only need 12 parts, and might save $200-$300  assembling it myself.  but that's still a fair amount of research.   and no warranty.  and clearance issues are on me  (IE tall fans hitting other stuff).

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Oh are you looking at pre-built systems? I thought you were building your own.

 

I've built my own in the past, and used to built custom PCs for OSU College of Medicine.  But I think I'd rather turn key and go - i'm feeling lazy.

 

One of the biggest problems with build your own is figuring out the best parts.

 

An example: Heat sink glue.    

 

From http://techbuyersguru.com/cpu-cooler-buyers-guide

 

"The three best products in terms of performance, usability, and longevity are Gelid GC-ExtremeNoctua NT-H1, and Arctic MX-4. Which product doesn't make the list? Arctic Silver 5. Despite outselling all other TIMs combined, it is, in a word, garbage. Do us a favor and don't buy it when it pops up as a recommended product at checkout!"

 

yet arctic silver 5 is the top rated product on pcpartpicker.com.

 

granted, i only need 12 parts, and might save $200-$300  assembling it myself.  but that's still a fair amount of research.   and no warranty.  and clearance issues are on me  (IE tall fans hitting other stuff).

 

 

I'm not saying you should, I just misinterpreted the OP.

 

For TIM use either Arctic MX-4 or Noctua NT-H1, bottom line is that for a desktop it really doesn't matter.

You don't need a CPU cooler other than the OEM one, unless you want a silent one. In that case, Noctua are the best air coolers, with Corsair supplying the best all-in-one water coolers - but with this you need a case that can accomodate a 240mm radiator. Most websites configuration builders should defend against incompatibilities though. If you want something other than the OEM one, a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is good value.

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I'm going to have to pay more attention to which thermal paste I'm using. It might be Arctic Silver 5.
 
I'm probably not the best person to ask on what to get for a "game dev" machine. My 7 year old PC with a 3 year old graphics card does just fine for everything except VR, which is why I'm looking at upgrading. I worked out my new build a few weeks ago and got sticker shock. It was initially around $8,000. I had budgeted about half that much. I went over it again and again looking at what I could cut and finally realized that SSD doesn't do squat for me except boot the computer a few seconds faster. I included a ridiculous amount of RAM to max out the mother board, but more so to fill up the slots so that the water block on them would have good solid support under it. I could have used DIMMs that had lower capacity, but that would have prevented using them in an upgrade. Besides, halving the ram would have not saved all that much by itself.
 
But the SSD wasn't really giving me anything. With 128GB of RAM, I could put a RAM drive in memory to cover most tasks that would actually run faster than an SSD. The bus on the spinning hard drives is worlds beyond what is in my current computer. So,  they're going to be significantly faster than what I'm used to. Anyway, dropping the SSD, allowed me to drop the second liquid cooling loop. It was questionable whether I needed a second one in the first place, although there were enough water blocks that there might not be good flow. By dropping the SSD and it's water block, it made it much more reasonable to run with a single cooling loop which knocked about $1,500 off the price.
 
I've decided that for now at least it won't have a Blue Ray or CD drive in it. Everything is going to USB thumb drives these days or SD cards.

I like my computers to run "cold to the touch". If it reaches human body temperature, it's time to shut it down and figure out what's wrong with the cooling system. Needless to say, with this kind of cooling power, you can over-clock the snot out of it. This is the first time I've done a custom liquid loop. I've used a peltier cooler in the past, massive heat sinks, and most recently an all in one liquid CPU cooler. But for overclocking the 1080, I think I'm ready to take it to the next level with the custom liquid loop.
 
Anyways, here's what I'm looking at building out this year. And if my budget can ever recover, I may consider a 70+ inch 4K TV for a new monitor... Maybe for Christmas 2017...
 
 
 
 

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Graphics Card MSI GAMING GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X Direct        1$782.99  $782.99
              QD3 Male Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling,         2 $12.49   $24.98                                        http://koolance.com/qd3-ms10x13-bk-quick-disconnect-no-spill-coupling-male-for-10mm-x-13mm-3-8in-x-1-2in-black
              QD3 Female Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling        2 $13.24   $26.48
                                                                                        $834.45
CPU & MotherboIntel® Core™ i7-6850K Processor (15M Cache, u        1$609.99  $609.99            140FCLGA2011-3 Socket       http://ark.intel.com/products/94188/Intel-Core-i7-6850K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz
              ASUS RAMPAGE V EDITION 10 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X        1$598.99  $598.99                                        http://whttps://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-RAMPAGE-V-EDITION-10/
              EK-FB ASUS R5-E10 Monoblock - Nickel                 1$186.99  $186.99                                        https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fb-asus-r5-e10-monoblock-nickel
                                                                                      $1,395.97
Memory        Dominator® Platinum Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DD        2$499.99  $999.98                                        http://whttp://www.corsair.com/en-us/dominator-platinum-series-64gb-4-x-16gb-ddr4-dram-3333mhz-c16-memory-kit-cm
              EK-RAM Monarch X4 - Nickel                           2 $51.99  $103.98               Thermal Block specific 4 https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-ram-monarch-x4-nickel
              QD3 Male Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling,         2 $11.99   $23.98
              QD3 Female Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling        2 $13.24   $26.48
                                                                                      $1,154.42
HD            Intel 750 Series AIC 1.2TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4        0$769.99    $0.00                                        http://whttps://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-750-series.html
              EK-FC I750 SSD                                       0 $99.99    $0.00                                        https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-i750-ssd
              WD Black 6TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Dr        1$279.99  $279.99                                        http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236970
                                                                                        $279.99
Power         CORSAIR RM Series RM1000 1000W ATX12V v2.4 an        1$203.99  $203.99
                                                                                        $203.99
Case          CaseLabs MAGNUM THW10 - Customizable                 1$843.17  $843.17                                        http://www.caselabs-store.com/magnum-thw10-customizable/
                                                                                        $843.17
Cooling       Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 560mm                       1$160.49  $160.49
              EK-RES X3 250 Lite                                   1 $57.99   $57.99
              EK-XTOP Revo Dual D5 PWM Serial - (incl. 2x p        1$244.99  $244.99
              EK-HDC Fitting 12mm G1/4 - Elox Black               16  $6.99  $111.84               G 1/4 to 3/8&1/2 PETG    https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-hdc-fitting-12mm-g1-4-elox-black
              XSPC ATX PSU Bridge Tool (24 Pin), Black             1  $4.95    $4.95               Jumper for cooling circuihttps://www.amazon.com/XSPC-ATX-Bridge-Tool-Black/dp/B00NKQ4F98/ref=sr_1_3?m=A3GO5VFCNOM5I7&s=merchant-items&ie=
              PETG PrimoChill 1/2in. Rigid PETG Tube – 4 x         1 $16.95   $16.95               3/8in & 1/2in            http://www.primochill.com/product/primochill-12in-rigid-petg-tube-36in-4-pack-uv-blue/
              PrimoChill True™ Infused – Insanely Concentra        1 $21.95   $21.95               Makes 1 gallon
              PrimoChill SysPrep – Cooling Loop Pre-Treatme        0  $5.95    $0.00               Included with PrimoChill

              PrimoChill System Fill Syringe – 60cc                1  $4.95    $4.95                                        http://www.primochill.com/product/primochill-38in-to-12in-pump-adaptor-kit-3/
              PrimoChill RFB Rigid Tubing Finishing Bit            1 $24.95   $24.95               Deburring Bit            http://www.primochill.com/product/primochill-rfb-rigid-tubing-finishing-bit/
              PrimoChill 3/8in OD Rigid Tube Silicone Bendi        1  $2.25    $2.25               Internal Bending Tube    http://www.primochill.com/product/silicone-bending-insert-tube-1-foot-for-38-id-rigid-tube/
              PrimoChill Rigid Acrylic / PETG Bender – Vers        1 $59.95   $59.95                                        http://www.primochill.com/product/bender/
              Silverstone Tek 140mm Ultra Fine Fan Filter w        4 $14.56   $58.24                                        https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Filter-Magnet-Cooling-FF143B/dp/B00ARB5E8A/ref=pd_sim_147_6?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B
              QD3 Male Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling,         1 $12.49   $12.49               For draining
              QD3 Female Quick Disconnect No-Spill Coupling        1 $13.24   $13.24
                                                                                        $769.50
VR            Occulus Rift                                         1$599.00  $599.00                                        https://www.amazon.com/Oculus-Rift/dp/B00VF0IXEY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475409189&sr=8-1&keywords=oculus%2Brift
                                                                                        $599.00
USB           Anker 10-Port 60W USB 3.0 Hub with 7 Data Tra        1 $39.99   $39.99                                        https://www.amazon.com/Anker-10-Port-Transfer-PowerIQ-Charging/dp/B00VDVCQ84/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1475426
                                                                                         $39.99


                                                                            $6,146.21



              Total Cooling Cost (Excluding builtin water b$1,162.39











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