Growth mechanics for city builder

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Hi

Im planning a medieval city builder / sim inspired by the stronghold, banished and anno series. For population growth a common mechanics is either you need to maintain positive "happiness" (stronghold series) or you supply more and more goods/services to get higher level inhabitants (anno series). You also need houses but that's basically a given.

An idea i have:

You have a pop cap initially. To raise it you need to add goods/services but you choose what and in what order. Then the % of the population who has access to these goods/services determines your city's increased pop cap, the info screen for it could look something like:

Base pop cap 20
Ale (53 %) +5 cap
Religion (21%) +2 cap
Pottery (100%) +10 cap
Food variety ( 3 types) +6 cap

Total pop cap: 43

What do you think? The idea is to let the player have more freedom in how he/she develops the city depending on the map resources and other factors such as climate.
 

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Nope just planning the game for now.

How is it sterile? It strikes me as more flexible than the two major series I mentioned (stronghold and anno), and those games work fine.

The idea is that complexity allows for bigger cities. Other things like access to better roads can also give increased pop cap (and as the other things, the ratio of how many have access to it will determine the pop cap bonus).

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Uhh wish I could see a bit of gameplay :D
Oh yes for the flexibility, and generally, I'm personally all for it.
But what I meant is that it's too early to put numbers on a game that is just an idea (perhaps I tuck you post numbers too literally).
With out a whole gameplay concept, it's hard to judge.

e.g. Imagine Stronghold having economy part 1 fold more complex. It might require additional time for a player to deal with it and as a consequence when you actively having a siege on an enemy castle, your economy will tank because it is not been enough actively managed. 
Here an actual example. Stockpile in SC1 vs SC2 game. In the original (Crusader), when a player is not starved for resources, it get's clogged up, but in a SC2 you have an auto sell future. To me, it's a great improvement to the game. You improve gameplay efficiency with out reduction in any department.

Edited by extreme64
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Yeah, numbers are just an example. I think they might need to be non-linear as well (100% coverage isnt necessarily giving double bonus compared to 50 % coverage).

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I would go for a more traditional approach here.

 

Soft cap - houses (but rarely a bottleneck)

Bottleneck - happiness, which affects rate of acquisition

Decreased growth rate - large population require more happiness than small one, so big population growth slow down

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It looks nice imo,

i would add an additional increase in pop by letting the player choose to hiring certain organisatory jobs (mayor or doctor) who would do nothing else(except for consuming resources like the other workers)

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Rather than measuring population access (where these become additional heatmap resources), what about making these more like achievements/unlocks? So rather than +1 pop per 20% of the population with access to ale, you gain +3 cap for collectively drinking 500 barrels, and +3 cap for having a brewer's guild (with some complicated set of requirements to construct).

I find discontinuities like that tend to create more exciting gameplay moments, and it gives you a more flexible framework where each goal can be distinct.

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28 minutes ago, Polama said:

you gain +3 cap for collectively drinking 500 barrels, and +3 cap for having a brewer's guild (with some complicated set of requirements to construct).

 

Fancy that.
That way, harassing someones cits/workers, get a nice buff in tactical priority.

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There is no harassment as there is no real "opponent" though.

Giving pop cap for "achievements" such as having consumed a certain no of goods is a fun idea, but wouldnt it reward the player for just letting time pass? My suggestion of giving pop cap for % of supplied population rewards the player for having a generally "better" city overall, which seems more intuitive.

The + cap for "wonder" buildings however I like, I already planned giving some bonus for prestige buildings like cathedrals and such.

Thoughts?

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