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Getting Real Instruments?

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Tom Sloper    16062

Yes, hiring an orchestra is expensive. Why do you think you have to do that? I mean, raising money for anything related to development is doable, but not easy. Why not go with a less expensive option, if money is a problem?

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nsmadsen    5584

Consider using only a few real instruments and leave the rest in the hands of a composer who can create convincing mock ups. You'll be amazed at how just having one live instrument can enhance a recording. 

Also consider Fiverr. Lots of musicians, myself included, offer our services up there for affordable rates. 

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G Leoni    0

A good option is to go to the nearest music school. Normally the music schools of any town (even small town) or city, have a small local orchestra. You could ask them and they sure could do you a favor.

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jkuehlin    243
On 8/28/2017 at 3:23 PM, G Leoni said:

A good option is to go to the nearest music school.

That's a good idea. Sometimes you can find people in local church orchestras too (if you can stomach that crowd), that will take an interest just because they think your project is cool. 

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AFV    150

Nowadays with virtual instruments you can do something pretty realistic. Hire someone that does music with those virtual instruments and he/she will make it custom-made.

If you have more budget and you really see the difference between virtual recreation and live recording, go for it!

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jkuehlin    243
10 minutes ago, the incredible smoker said:

Just get some Korg Triton or Trinity or whatever, contains most sounds.

@the incredible smoker, no disrespect if this is your keyboard of choice. I wouldn't recommend attempting to use one of these for game audio if the OP was asking about realism. I guess I'd like to offer a differing opinion, rather than a criticism of your suggestion here...If someone is wanting to go the Korg workstation route, the Kronos and M3 are far better choices than a Trinity or Triton because of the size of the sample bank, open architecture, and implementation of extended instrument articulations.

Even at the $400 price point for which you could acquire a Trinity or Triton, I feel an expansion pack from EastWest, Vienna, Motu, or Native Instruments if a far better buy IF the op wants to go that route. Great thoughts though!

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Matias Goldberg    9580

 

On 8/28/2017 at 4:23 PM, G Leoni said:

A good option is to go to the nearest music school. Normally the music schools of any town (even small town) or city, have a small local orchestra. You could ask them and they sure could do you a favor.

:] 

On 9/10/2017 at 2:06 AM, jkuehlin said:

That's a good idea. Sometimes you can find people in local church orchestras too (if you can stomach that crowd), that will take an interest just because they think your project is cool. 

If the project is commercial / for profit / will generate revenue, I'll advise creating some form of contract to determine what happens in the eventuallity of making profits.

The local orchestra may do you a favour if it thinks your project is cool, but if you end up making loads of money they'll definitely sue for a chunk of that money.

But obviously if you put up some form of contract in advance, then likely they won't just do it "as a favour" either.

 

I like and am thrilled at the idea of using small local orchestras, but if you make money and they don't see a penny they will righteously feel ripped off.

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nsmadsen    5584
2 hours ago, Matias Goldberg said:

 

If the project is commercial / for profit / will generate revenue, I'll advise creating some form of contract to determine what happens in the eventuallity of making profits.

Agreed. But this should happen regardless, right? Always have contracts and release forms in place. 

2 hours ago, Matias Goldberg said:

The local orchestra may do you a favour if it thinks your project is cool, but if you end up making loads of money they'll definitely sue for a chunk of that money.

I would highly advise asking something as large as an orchestra to do ANYTHING as a favor. :P I think perhaps some wires have been crossed. The way I understood it (or read it) was that you could hire a local school ensemble to record your piece at a cheaper rate than a professional orchestra. It would still be a massive undertaking however to record such a large ensemble. And then you'll also be dealing with nonprofessional musicians with varying degrees of talent and ability. 

This is why I think the idea of hiring a few key musicians and layering in those real tracks with virtual ones is a better way to go. Easier to set up and manage and easier to control the final outcome. 

2 hours ago, Matias Goldberg said:

I like and am thrilled at the idea of using small local orchestras, but if you make money and they don't see a penny they will righteously feel ripped off.

It all comes down to good communication. If all of the terms are laid out clearly, accepted by all parties and followed to the T - nobody should feel ripped off regardless of the amounts of money made once the game/product ships. 

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