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Could someone tell me how or where to get a c++ compiler (preferably a free download). I have looked around on the web and found Dev C++ or Borland C++, is there an important difference? Which is the best? Are there any others? Thanks for any help.

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There is no best. Dev C++ uses the MinGW32 port of the Win32 API with a Win32 port of GCC (GCC is the #1 compiler for Unixes). The IDE and MinGW32 have a couple bugs, but the compiler is solid. Borland''s a good compiler (better or worse than GCC? That''s debatable ), but the free version comes without an IDE (not a big deal, you can get one elsewhere). There really is no ''best'' compiler, try both (and other ones if you find some) and decide on your own. There both free, what are you lossing?

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I used the free Borland C++ command-line compiler, and turbo debugger along with JFE as my IDE/editor. Seems to work out pretty good for a free alternative.

I''d recommend the original poster giving that free combination of tools a try. Everyone has their preferences, but this has been about the best environment for me so far. The thing I like about JFE is it seems to have just the features for an IDE that I like. Not overdone, but customizable where I like.

If nothing else, it seems like a good starting point and will help you get a find out what it is more that you''re looking for.

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For Linux, use either Dev-C++ or Borland C++.
For Windows, MS Visual Studio 6.0 2Win!

B4 i get flamed, MS visual studio really is the best package to get for windows, and if you are a bit clever, it can compile for Linux too.

(I may write an article soon on how to force MSVC6 to use the CygWin or MinGW commandline compilers...)

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i love VIDE because it is very simple and doesn''t have too much crap (as MS and borland IDEs do) to get between me and typing out code.


We all have our ways of rationalizing....



Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey

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krez: why not just use "edit.com".

To the vast majority of mankind, nothing is more agreeable than to escape the need for mental exertion... To most people, nothing is more troublesome than the effort of thinking.

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to Arild Fines:
what exactly am i supposed to be rationalizing? or perhaps saying that i am rationalizing is your way of rationalizing... do you hate me because i like the console?

to jenova:
two reasons. (1) it handles my makefile for me (2) MDI, i can have my header files on the screen next to my source files...

i learned c++ through a telnet window to a unix system... there is no need for bells and whistles.

wow, i never expected to be called out on that ...

--- krez (krezisback@aol.com)

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Bells and whistles rule!

Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey

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IDEs: I''ve used Borland Builder, MSVS, DJGPP, Dev-C++, ...
Compilers: I''ve used GPP, CL (MSVC), Mingw32, ...

I''ve seen it all, and, for me, the best is Dev-C++

*watches all the jaws drop*

Dev-C++ is the most stable, easy-to-use, free(est?), fastest IDE there is. MSVC is huge, slower, less stable, and so function-laden it doesn''t know what to do with itself. Borland just sucks. For newbies (and most anyone else), I recommend Dev-C++.

Later,
ZE.

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there is no need for bells and whistles.
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--- krez (krezisback@aol .com)


Irony at its best.

Later,
ZE.

EDITED to make that evil word stick out a bit more
EDITED once more for good measure.

Edited by - ZealousElixir on December 19, 2001 3:22:16 PM

Edited by - ZealousElixir on December 19, 2001 3:26:15 PM

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B4 i get flamed, MS visual studio really is the best package to get for windows, and if you are a bit clever, it can compile for Linux too.

(I may write an article soon on how to force MSVC6 to use the CygWin or MinGW commandline compilers...)


I would be very interested in that.



Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey

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Something really weird happened to me today. I opened up VS.NET and loaded a file. Then I pressed the ''A'' key and the Shift key simultaneously on the keyboard. When I looked up at the screen, I could clearly see the letter A written in black on a white background. Really! I swear. I wouldnt lie about something like this.

Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey

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Something really weird happened to me today. I opened up VS.NET and loaded a file. Then I pressed the ''A'' key and the Shift key simultaneously on the keyboard. When I looked up at the screen, I could clearly see the letter A written in black on a white background. Really! I swear. I wouldnt lie about something like this.


Isn''t that what it''s supposed to do? or am I just not getting the joke/irony. Hopefully I''m just not getting the MS and VS.NET suck type of joke/irony or you have gone insane Arild Fines .

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Utterly

Fantastic doctrines (like Christianity or Islam or Marxism or Microsoft-bashing) require unanimity of belief. One dissenter casts doubt on the creed of millions. Thus the fear and hate; thus the torture chamber, the iron stake, the gallows, the labor camp, the psychiatric ward - Edward Abbey

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krez: i was j/k.

seriously, tho. i doesn''t really matter what IDE you prefer. but IMHO, VisualStudio is BY FAR the BEST software Microsoft has EVER developed.

"and you can scrap "VB, FoxPro & J++ from the package while we''re at it".

To the vast majority of mankind, nothing is more agreeable than to escape the need for mental exertion... To most people, nothing is more troublesome than the effort of thinking.

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me: there is no need for bells and whistles.
ZealousElixir:Irony at its best.

i would suggest you look up the word "irony" in the dictionary; it does not mean what alanis morrisette and many of the less educated people in this country think it does...
i never said anything good about america online. i do not use it. i simply have an email account there (on my parents account actually, from back in the day) because i have had it for so long. every time i change jobs (and when i finished college), i lose my email address there; at my aol address, everyone (from way back to my friends in middle school) can contact me without having to find my new one.
jackass.

--- krez (krezisback@aol.com)

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Irony:

1) Witty language used to convey insults or scorn.
2) Incrongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
3) A trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and what occurs.

Your using AOL is ironic. Anyone who, including myself, who learned C++ through a telnet session and uses AOL for email (even for convienance) is ironic.

Ironic was used properly here. It wasn''t in Alanis''s song because there wasn''t anything ironic in her situations, there were just a serious of "that sucks, bummer dude" moments.

Hey, not cracking on your use of AOL (well, I am actually but you should get the joke and laugh at it too) but you''ve got the use of irony wrong.

R.

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2) Incrongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
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Your using AOL is ironic. Anyone who, including myself, who learned C++ through a telnet session and uses AOL for email (even for convienance) is ironic.

well, i suppose, since what "might be expected" is completely subjective... i just don''t understand why some people can''t fathom the possibility that someone might finish school, and no longer have an account on the CS servers... except for grad students, this is what "actually occurs" for everyone who graduates.
quote:
Hey, not cracking on your use of AOL (well, I am actually but you should get the joke and laugh at it too) but you''ve got the use of irony wrong.

yah, i would give up my email address in a minute if it meant that all the aol servers would burn... don''t mind me, i get very defensive sometimes.

--- krez (krezisback@aol.com)

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