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Has the world gotten lazy? I am getting sick of this people who come into the forums and just post a question without putting any effort at all into figureing it out them selfs. You don''t learn if someone gives you the answer. So people I beg of you serch the internet or just gamedev quickly first chances are someone already has done or fixed what your asking about. After that search the forums this souldn''t take more than 15 min in which time you will have learned how to fix it or do it on your own, if you haven''t then ask your question. A man walks into a bar.....ouch!?! Ya get it, do ya huh huh well....awww I give up.

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It''s been reqested many times now. This post probably hasn''t had an impact on even one person, but I will say that I agree.

But, if the questions are so simple why don''t we/you/everyone just take the time to answer it? I mean, theres a pretty good chance that some newbie is going to browse the forums and see a question answered that he needed the answer to, and he wont post.

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Simple DirectMedia Layer:

Main Site - (www.libsdl.org)
Cone3D Tutorials- (cone3D.gamedev.net)
GameDev.net''s Tutorials - (Here)

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NeHe Tutorials - (nehe.gamedev.net)
Online Books - (Red Book) (Blue Book)

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I think we should make an exception for the real newbies. You can''t blame anyone that they don''t read the manual if they don''t know where to find the manual!

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This is a site to help people, I help them even if the question is stupid (if I can anyways). The only ones I truely hate are the baiters. People who post things like "OpenGL vs DirectX"! GRRRR!!!! I haven''t truely been on these forums THAT long, and I''ve seen it dozens of times.

Alex Broadwin
A-Tronic Software & Design
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Forum FAQ''s? Most of them lack FAQ''s!! They should make them for all of the forums and have a huge button saying . I still help the people, but it WOULD be nice. But what can I say, I''m a dreamer!

Alex Broadwin
A-Tronic Software & Design
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"if you fail in life, you were destined to fail. If you suceed in life, call me."
"The answer is out there."
"Please help, I''m using Windows!"

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Some of you guys suck! A real pro helps out even if the question is "stupid". The ones of you who consider yourselfs "elite" simply go somewhere else. If you guys keep shuving "newbees" of, eventually they''ll stop coming here. I myself know only very little OpenGL but i know lot''s about teaching. Fact is, that questions coming from beginners (in any subject) are often harder to answer (and give you more to think about) than thoose coming from pro''s.

/Ekas

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Ekas78:
Good point. The biggest reason for that is probably that the pros know enough about the subject that they are asking the questions, to know what to ask. Newbies on the other hand don''t usually know enough about the subjects that they are asking about, and therefore, they can''t always ask the question as it should be asked, and that sometimes makes it hard for them to search for information on it. I have found that the more that I know about any given subject, the quicker I can find new information on that subject, and therefore, the less questions I have to ask. I know I don''t like to see some of the stupid questions, just as much as everyone else, but if it''s one that I know the answer to, then I will try to answer the question in a way that they can understand.

j.w.

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I don''t care about answering stupid question (or to stupid ppl).

But IMHO we don''t have to give the answer right away, so they just copy/paste some sample code.

I think we have to teach them why this is the right answer, and where they can look to get further explanation.
The problem is, they obviously can''t understand the whole theory since they''re newbies, so we can''t explain everything. But at least give them some clues, they''ll probably understand why they did a mistake or where they could have looked for.

As long as each newbie has his unique point of view, he can not just read some threads and say "that''s the answer I wanted!". They have their own problem and don''t feel when a topic is closely related to their problems.

The thing I DO NOT WANT is having separated forums "OpenGL for beginners" and "OpenGL for advanced users" like OpenGL.org has. NeHe''s message board attracts a lot of beginners, thanks to his very nice tutorials. We''ll always have ppl somewhat boring. Don''t blame them, most of them don''t even know how a message board "works".

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well, i dont mind ppl to put questions all the time because "the one o teachs, learns twice", so by helping others ure learning to, and u get high on ppl''s consideration.. it works for me.
Even so, i agree with him, cause by having the solution to our problems in a flash wont make us learn, unless we try tu figure and optimize. Untill today ive never asked for help, and always figured stuff bymyself and thats really cool!! I think if didnt do like that i wouldnt know half of what know today.. but dont get me wrong, i dont know much.. i like to think of my self as average coder (+/-), but i try do evolve and dont stay sit w8ting 4 other to solve my problems.. this is true for real life.. today if u dont move.. ure good as dead.. well ignorant, a good example is that 90% of the USA population is dumb. A few motnhs ago i was watching howard stern''s program (it sucks by the way.. but nice bobs :D) and there was this kind of contest and q on the question was "100/10", none of them new the right anwser.. do u? hehehehe
so, use ure brains, evolve, and practice, and practice.. and practice, and when ure over, practice a litle more
well.. bye

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my gripe with this forum are the responces.. there have been many time someone asked a question only to have a responce that had nothing to do with the request.

and how long is a good time to search for the answer on your own? i think this is what this forum is all about. granted searching the forum first is a good start. this is obviously a place for nubies, if everyone knew what they were doing no one would need this place.

thats my 2 cents.

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