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Where can I find a nice Neural Networks and/or Genetic Algorithms SDK wich works with VC++ for Windows. I''ve already tried out the GALib,so don''t post this. Thanks for everything! GreeZ, Mr. Suicide! -->Try out hte DAMN-Bot for CS: http://www.cs-bot.tk !

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MatLab has a neural network toolbox... but then it''s not free!

If you''re interested, check out www.mathworks.com

Cheers,

Timkin

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I have a Neural Network DLL, but if you know the concepts behind NN or GA''s it certainly isn''t difficult at all to implement one. (I would expect 1.5 day of coding)...

Edo

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"I have a Neural Network DLL"

It looks intresting, but my bot is also a dll...do you have a lib?

GreeZ,
Mr. Suicide!

-->Try out the DAMN-Bot for CS: http://www.cs-bot.tk !

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why don''t you write a simulator on your own ? If you suceed, you can be sure you understood the theory - if not, you made some mistake

I think that writing a simulator for NNs can be quite a challenge, esp. because they can be computational expensive and so you get good experiences in optimizing code.

@$3.1415rin

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I know.

But I'm searching for NN-sourec to learn writing my own.
So I can ajust it very well for my bot.

GreeZ,
Mr. Suicide!

-->Try out the DAMN-Bot for CS: http://www.cs-bot.tk !

[edited by - damnbot on April 19, 2002 10:49:50 AM]

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What is the question here?
1 - What is a NN and what are the concepts behind it ?
2 - I know about NN but how can I implement one?

I suspect its question no.2. In my opinion, if you fully know NN and the concepts behind them, it isn''t very hard to implement one. You need to work on your programming if you don''t know how to implement this in C++ (just a couple of for..next statements).

However if its question no.1, you''re not better of with just source code, you need to read some articles....fup''s, gamedev,ai-depot,game-ai,gen5 etc etc...

Edo

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I seek to understand.

PS: I''ve tried all pages! Really.
So I''m looking for some secret tips!

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If you are searching a good start for learning the stuff about NNs including the mathematical side, implementation, problems, different types of nets etc etc etc I would recommend "A. Zell, simulation neuronaler Netze" since i know you are german :D that was my starting point

... and you probably already found the documentation of the use of NNs in joebot didn''t you ?

@$3.1415rin

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damnbot,

No one can give you the answers you seek... they can certainly point you toward them, or perhaps even explain them for you, but in the end, it will take work on your part - in the form of implementing what you have read - for all of it to sink in.

You''ve indicated that you''ve read widely on neural nets... that''s great... and certainly more than a lot of people do before asking for help in this forum.

My advice to you is to implement a simple feed-forward network. Nothing fancy... just a couple of input nodes and an output node or two. Play around with it and see what you can produce. From that basis, you can extend your code to a larger network... try different threshold functions, add hidden layers and implement different network concepts (like a Hopfield network, or a recurrent network).

There is only one place to start and that is at the beginning!

Cheers,

Timkin

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Ok then.
Thanks.

I'll try some things out when I've got free time.

GreeZ to everyone...

GreeZ,
Mr. Suicide!

-->Try out the DAMN-Bot for CS: http://www.cs-bot.tk !

[edited by - damnbot on April 20, 2002 9:39:41 PM]

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