The For Beginners forum was created as a place where people new to the site, new to game development, and new to programming in general could come and ask questions without fear of being flamed or made fun of for asking stupid, newbie questions. If threads like this one (not the worst, I''m sure, but I was just reading it) are any indication, my plan isn''t working. Besides providing a place to ask the typical beginner questions (and hopefully keep that kind of thing out of the other forums), this forum is here to help show newcomers how they should behave on our forums. I know that many of you get annoyed by people who ask a question when they could have easily found the answer on their own with minimal effort. I do too. But if they are posting in this particular forum then at least they recognize that they are a beginner or are asking a beginner question, we should at least make an effort to answer their question while at the same time showing them how they can find the answer themselves next time, or ask a better question next time, or whatever. This forum needs to be friendly to beginners. I feel that too often, it is not. I''d appreciate it if people made an effort to change that. Thanks.

its not so much that ppl are mean to newbies, its that newbies tend to exggerate their credintals (ie computer science major, hardcore gamer, made some projects, etc) then ask very basic questions that a few minutes of reasearch could answer. newbies need to learn how to do some research, instead of asking the exact questions that were answered numerous times. its funny how some even say they searched but find nothing, then someone else does a quick search and find tons of information. maybe a tutorial on how to do research?

personally i try to help, but some dont want help, they just want you to do the work for them.

Good call admin!

BTW, where is the "on" switch for my computer?

quote:newbies need to learn how to do some research, instead of asking the exact questions that were answered numerous times

so they''re newbies. and yet they should know how to properly ask questions.....

that sounds like a paradox if i ever heard one.

a good rule of thumb should be, if basic questions piss you off and you see one in the For Beginners section just ignore it and let someone a little calmer handle the newbie education in a kind way. yelling at a newbie for not knowing how to properly ask a question or for not understanding the difference between good and bad questions is like yelling at a 5 year old for not knowing basic algebra. you can''t expect someone to know something they haven''t been taught and they''re not going to learn from someone yelling at them and calling them stupid. the likely result of the latter is that they classify you as "asshole" and leave the board, stealing from the community any insights they would have eventually come up with when they left the newbie stage.

don''t hurt the community be scaring off new people.

-me

whats google?