Should I learn Visual Basic?
Are you insane ? Well... you can give a try, knowledge rules, right ? VB it''s a LOT easier than C++ so...if you already know C++ than VB will be piece of cake for you.
Bye
Bye
masterconjurer, your brilliant debating skills have had a life-changing effect on me, and thanks to you I have seen the light. How could so many people have been duped into using such a sucky language. Curse you, Microsoft!
PS: On the not-so-off chance that you are daft, that was sarcasm. Please take your "wealth" of programming knowledge elsewhere... generally its more useful when people who aren't twits provide an intelligent answer.
The last thing I have read from your hand:
And you expect to have a valid opinion in this thread?... lol
[edited by - Bad Monkey on June 9, 2002 10:02:24 PM]
PS: On the not-so-off chance that you are daft, that was sarcasm. Please take your "wealth" of programming knowledge elsewhere... generally its more useful when people who aren't twits provide an intelligent answer.
The last thing I have read from your hand:
quote:
I agree! Programming is W-A-Y too damn hard! I'm through trying to spen countless hours learning a bunch of BS!
And you expect to have a valid opinion in this thread?... lol
[edited by - Bad Monkey on June 9, 2002 10:02:24 PM]
Personally I think Visual Basic is a great language to learn. I started off with various languages, learnt C at college and am now using vb to develop a game. I understanding peoples reasons for saying use c/c++ it offers the best performance for game developers, but speaking for myself I know I dont have the time/skills (yet)/money (yet) to code commercial products. I started my current project in C but decided I could do the same thing in vb, easier.
Using vb you can learn the basics upto a high level of programming/game development from a simple application to using directx/opengl(yes with lower performance), but the things you learn will make going to c much, much easier. For someone starting out trying to make games in C I doubt they would get as far as making a windows instance(maybe a console text game/dos game).
Since using vb I''ve learnt alot about winsock, databases and directx, all these things will help me when i finally move my game to c.
If your looking to make high performance games then go for c. If not you can produce some great things with vb and also learn alot, but at a performance hit.
In closing Id say use C purely because its great, I love it, but to learn and make some reasonable games try vb. One last thing id prefer not to have abuse hurled at me its simply my opinion on the matter, which we are all entitled to.
Using vb you can learn the basics upto a high level of programming/game development from a simple application to using directx/opengl(yes with lower performance), but the things you learn will make going to c much, much easier. For someone starting out trying to make games in C I doubt they would get as far as making a windows instance(maybe a console text game/dos game).
Since using vb I''ve learnt alot about winsock, databases and directx, all these things will help me when i finally move my game to c.
If your looking to make high performance games then go for c. If not you can produce some great things with vb and also learn alot, but at a performance hit.
In closing Id say use C purely because its great, I love it, but to learn and make some reasonable games try vb. One last thing id prefer not to have abuse hurled at me its simply my opinion on the matter, which we are all entitled to.
quote:Original post by Bad Monkey
Programming is W-A-Y too damn hard!
And you expect to have a valid opinion in this thread?... lol
Actually, he is correct. Programming is a task way beyond the meagre capabilities of the human brain. The only way to deal with this is to accept your limitations, and choose tools that help you bring the complexity under control.
If you want a job, learn how to use C++ very well. VB is used in some jobs, but the vast majority of them don''t.
Try Python!
I''ve got my small 2D demo running in 3 weeks, while learning it!
I''m planning to get a full working game in 2 months.
I''ve got my small 2D demo running in 3 weeks, while learning it!
I''m planning to get a full working game in 2 months.
I use C++ for the code which needs to be fast, and Delphi for tools, small windows apps which don''t need any advanced graphics and similar.
I think it is smarter to use the right tool for the right job. Programming a huge game in Delphi might not be the best idea, but neither is creating a small tool app in c++.
I think it is smarter to use the right tool for the right job. Programming a huge game in Delphi might not be the best idea, but neither is creating a small tool app in c++.
i love c++ and i hate visual basic. i know both, and i know for both when i need to use them. but visual basic is imho just a terrible language, i just hate the style. because of this i suggest to play around with c# wich imho is much bether designed than vb.
i now use c++ for everything
c# for windowsapps (small ones, and connected with c++ if i need some fast stuff or just stuff i have yet in c++)
vb for macros/scripts in word/excel or the resting office (don''t forget access). there it is really powerful as it a) is the only language there and b) its really easy to add features to the programs like that.
for webprogramming i use php and for some fancy little stuff i sometimes have java-script (at least some handy shortcuts in my browser for translations, google, autolinker and more)
for storing data i use xml where ever i can.
"take a look around" - limp bizkit
www.google.com
i now use c++ for everything
c# for windowsapps (small ones, and connected with c++ if i need some fast stuff or just stuff i have yet in c++)
vb for macros/scripts in word/excel or the resting office (don''t forget access). there it is really powerful as it a) is the only language there and b) its really easy to add features to the programs like that.
for webprogramming i use php and for some fancy little stuff i sometimes have java-script (at least some handy shortcuts in my browser for translations, google, autolinker and more)
for storing data i use xml where ever i can.
"take a look around" - limp bizkit
www.google.com
I agree, VB is completely worthless for making games themselves, but it''s helpful to use VB for things that may complement a game. For example, if you wanted to create a level maker for your game you could code the UI in VB and make a C++ dll (mainly b/c I find it easier to do a lot of the number crunching in C++) that would do the dirty stuff for your level maker.
Some things you may want to consider may also be the menus sytem for your game. You can create the main menu, game controls menu etc all in VB, and then make the game itself in C++ and have your VB menu prog just launch the game EXE
Some things you may want to consider may also be the menus sytem for your game. You can create the main menu, game controls menu etc all in VB, and then make the game itself in C++ and have your VB menu prog just launch the game EXE
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