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  1. exactly. I dont know even 1 MMO game which have public server code inside client. Anyways, question is not about "Splitting vs Not splitting at all", question about "How to" split server/client code: 1) Create different Classes for Server and Client OR 2) Create same classes, but with splitted Fields and Methods. Well ok, i decided to continue use (1) option.
  2. More interesting for me is TERA, because there is as i know fully non-target system. Thats easy to detect: when you play TERA just watch your firewall and detect what exactly TERA uses (inside game, not launcher or smth): 1) Only TCP 2) TCP and also UDP 3) Only UDP (reliable UDP)
  3. I didnt play any of new non-targetting MMORPG's, and even dont have any to test. So i wonder. What exactly protocol they use ? Reliable UDP or pure TCP ? Because i know that for example many targetting MMORPGs used pure TCP: for example WoW and Lineage 2, so what new games (for example TERA) use for NON-targetting networking model ?
  4. What do i think about it: 1) Well, first of all, its not necessarily to hide "Variables" on client, i think "Null" value for them is enaugh, and also "Null/Dummy" types for that variables. 2) Hiding functions is only necessary or critical. 3) Using NON-splitted single classes is handy, because we dont have to write also separate containers/managers for Client and Server objects. 4) NON-splitted classes still need to split much functions into Client and Server. 5) NON-splitted classes are very dirty and ambiguous, because of #if/#endif everywhere. Though in C++ its not a big problem, we can use macros, but for C# its kind a problem. The main option here (3) for benefit of single NON-splitted classes. But again and again i come back to "Splitted classes", because its: 1) Cleaner. You dont have to write #if/#endif every where. 2) It shows you clean Server and clean Client logic, without any mixing. 3) Easier to create and maintain. Also have minuses: 1) The same objects need to be implemented twice. Ofcource, many game engines use "NON-splitted objects", they just have flag "IsServer" or something like that. But they all support only "Client-side-Server", they dont have to "Hide" any server code or logic, every player may create/host own game. But i am creating Master Server, players cant create own server or host games, they have to connect to remote server for playing. Like in MMOG. I know the main rule for writing networking applications is: "Separate Server and Client code", thats what i am doing actually.
  5. Hello, i am creating: 1) Client application which suppose to connect to remote secure dedicated server 2) Secure dedicated server I am hiding server logic, so i need to hide server code too. So what do i do for that ? For example i have single object type: Player, i split this class into two classes: ServerPlayer, ClientPlayer and writing them totally from scratch, but it is totally the same objects, semanticly, so i think i am doing something wrong, because this objects have much "Common" fields, but again most of that fields also splitted into: Client and Server types, so i think i cant just combine this classes with inheritense. How do you writing server and client code, when you need to hide much server logic ? I am thinking about combining ServerPlayer and ClientPlayer into one Player class, and other similar classes also, but dont know how to do it better (C# or C++), and should i do this at all ? may i should use splitted classes ? I think i could combine these classes into one Player with #if/#endif: // now i have for example: class ServerPlayer { int ID; void HandleMessageFromClient(){} } class ClientPlayer { int ID; PlayerModel Model; void SendMessageToServer(){} } // and want combine into: class Player { int ID; #if CLIENT PlayerModel Model; // some fields Server do not need also #endif // need to hide server functions from client #if SERVER void HandleMessageFromClient(){} #endif // dont need to hide client functions from server void SendMessageToServer(){} } so what should i do ? continue using splitted classes and split everything into Server/Client prefix, or use single Objects, because they are semanticly the same ?
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