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  1. Thank you Barbossa problem solved :)
  2. Hello kind Dev's  My father bought a new machine, which came with windows 8, but he had asked me to take it off and dual boot windows 7 and windows xp to it,So i got the windows xp disk and went up to install that 1st so i had went through the Xp setup and formatted the drive and made 2 partitions and installed xp on the smaller partition, so after i installed and setup xp which works fine now, i went and tried to install windows 7 but when i tried to install windows 7 on the other partition it told me the disk was mbr and needs to be gpt now the only issue is i cannot convert it... i tried using tools and cmd but it cannot change it.. any idea on what i could do to fix and run those 2 os's dual boot?
  3. Wow this is some incredible feed back thank you everyone, and now i will give him the right stuff in fact ill take him to the forum and have him read this for him self the funny thing is i didn't tell him i am going to do this. I really do would like to thank each and everyone of you again though for you'r kind replies and great inspirational stories especially the the stories it's not everyday a stranger open's up to help someone along with sharing their personal experiences.That is also the big reason why i came here because great dev's look out for each other :) you have given hope and in times of desperation that is one of the most valuable emotions to posses right now so goodbye i hope i always run into people like you, for troubles of other's and my self.
  4. ill tell you one thing the kid love's 3d modeling hes a blender addict and does some pretty good stuff as he's more visual but the logic just isn't coming in , and please don't say that lmao were trying to find way's to help him mainly in the math area.
  5. Hello All For This Topic I Would Like To Ask The Following To Help A Family Member With Big Dreams but lacks the skills in mainly math  :   1. How would you motivate this young soul who stopped trying because he's absolutely horrid at math ,sophomore(10th grade) in High school to pursue his dreams as a mobile game developer .   2. How do i convince him that he dosent need to be a math expert to do game development... i already told him about engines not needing any hard programming at all how ever he feels if he can't do it like the big guys in the industry then its not worth it.   3. What Books would you have him study for his math issues he said he's only decent in algebra everything else in higher math levels he fails. (he hasn't showed me any proof he even knows algebra well enough but ill trust him that he knows something in it and i will be buying these books for him so lets not go wild here :).   )   4. How do we Make him Interested in actually wanting to learn often because he said he will often lose focus and not do much math at all because its boring.
  6. Wow thanks for the speedy reply but i would imagine allot of texture loss in anything smaller than 512 another question. When mapping in my uv editor can i have uv's overlapping each other to share texture's, and i mean :   lets say i have a small building for example and it has :   2 window's 3 walls and a door   can i have the two window uv's on top of each other and have the 3 wall's do the same? I am aiming at the unity 3d engine would this be a problem for for mobile's ? also what could you tell me about light mapping what sizes should i keep those ? or do you suppose it would be best to just bake the shadow's in my 3d package.
  7. Hello friends :     i am wondering how you pro's might go about texturing game building's inside and out for decent android phone's and ios device's basically the average casual mobile gamer device.   What techniques would you use?   What size texture maps?    and what are some thing's to avoid?
  8. Well 3Ddreamer thanks for you reply however im considering blender or Modo at this point and thanks too Serapth maybe i should still keep using blender and just to add to this i am not only going to use the 3D app for game development in unity but also in 3ds max i did architectural visualization and still do none commercial as a way to build up a client base .
  9. Hello Friend's   I am someone who has been working with 3DS max for about 3 year's mainly through high school.   I will say this and i have said it too many time's i love the speed and workflow in max and i don't want to leave it, however the price tag/($3,500)  is not exactly doable at this time.   I need something commercial and more friendly to my young wallet, i was using blender however the time difference to model something in blender and the extra steps needed to do the job vs what it would take in max make's me feel like i might be able to achieve better in something else close to max in a sense of ease of modeling with a more comfortable price tag.   So to clarify this do you think Modo the $1495 package is a good choice from someone like me with a good 3ds max background i am sure there are artist here with many year's more experience than i do and are lurking around being as great as you are so please you'r advice will be much appreciated, and also   what are something's modo's does better than max and what are some of the thing's of which you like and find other programs similar cannot achieve.   Thank you ,looking forward to some great replies.
  10. Wow thank you so much Khantarr , that was exactly the problem i am so releaved now,you really are a good person that know's his stuff may you get far in life :). Now as for me ill make a good clean up on this machine and use the knowledge gained in the future if i ever need to again.
  11. Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4 Scan saved at 12:09:35 PM, on 3/11/2013 Platform: Windows 7  (WinNT 6.00.3504) MSIE: Internet Explorer v9.00 (9.00.8112.16450) Boot mode: Normal   Running processes: C:\Users\Metro_Dev\Documents\MSDCSD\NNLQwd2F8mpF\msdcsd.exe C:\Users\Metro_Dev\AppData\Local\Microsoft\SkyDrive\SkyDrive.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATKOSD2\ATKOSD2.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\IELowutil.exe C:\Windows\SysWOW64\cmd.exe C:\Windows\SysWOW64\cmd.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ManyCam\Bin\ManyCam.exe C:\Users\Metro_Dev\AppData\Roaming\SearchProtect\bin\cltmng.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe C:\Users\Metro_Dev\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Dropbox.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATK Media\DMedia.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATK Hotkey\HControlUser.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\Shared files\brs.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-tray.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Hotspot Shield\bin\openvpntray.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Trend Micro\HiJackThis\HiJackThis.exe C:\Windows\SysWOW64\DllHost.exe   R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896 R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://search.conduit.com/?ctid=CT3288627&octid=CT3288627&SearchSource=61&CUI=UN15722779032046425&UM=UM_ID&UP=SP5A33DD36-B58C-45DE-A7D6-EC690C734CFC R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157 R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896 R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896 R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157 R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =  R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =  R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page = C:\Windows\SysWOW64\blank.htm R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =  F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=userinit.exe O2 - BHO: (no name) - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} - (no file) O2 - BHO: ContributeBHO Class - {074C1DC5-9320-4A9A-947D-C042949C6216} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Contribute CS5\Plugins\IEPlugin\contributeieplugin.dll O2 - BHO: Groove GFS Browser Helper - {12DB2EA6-0BB3-01EB-26E9-41BB5AF16DF1} - C:\Windows\SysWow64\serwvdrrv.dll O2 - BHO: AcroIEHelperStub - {18DF081C-E8AD-4283-A596-FA578C2EBDC3} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelperShim.dll O2 - BHO: Increase performance and video formats for your HTML5 <video> - {326E768D-4182-46FD-9C16-1449A49795F4} - C:\Program Files (x86)\DivX\DivX Plus Web Player\ie\DivXHTML5\DivXHTML5.dll O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In SSV Helper - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\ssv.dll O2 - BHO: Windows Live ID Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll O2 - BHO: SkypeIEPluginBHO - {AE805869-2E5C-4ED4-8F7B-F1F7851A4497} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll O2 - BHO: (no name) - {B9E567E4-BF93-4E31-838A-E7D7D01815BF} - (no file) O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\jp2ssv.dll O2 - BHO: Microsoft Web Test Recorder 10.0 Helper - {DDA57003-0068-4ed2-9D32-4D1EC707D94D} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\Common7\IDE\PrivateAssemblies\Microsoft.VisualStudio.QualityTools.RecorderBarBHO100.dll O2 - BHO: Hotspot Shield Class - {F9E4A054-E9B1-4BC3-83A3-76A1AE736170} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Hotspot Shield\HssIE\HssIE.dll O2 - BHO: DAPIELoader Class - {FF6C3CF0-4B15-11D1-ABED-709549C10000} - C:\PROGRA~2\DAP\DAPIEL~1.DLL O3 - Toolbar: Contribute Toolbar - {517BDDE4-E3A7-4570-B21E-2B52B6139FC7} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Contribute CS5\Plugins\IEPlugin\contributeieplugin.dll O3 - Toolbar: (no name) - {2793FB58-DCE3-4A83-97DE-7208CAD0341C} - (no file) O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ATKMEDIA] C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATK Media\DMedia.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HControlUser] C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATK Hotkey\HControlUser.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AdobeCS5ServiceManager] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CS5ServiceManager\CS5ServiceManager.exe" -launchedbylogin O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SwitchBoard] C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\SwitchBoard\SwitchBoard.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BDRegion] C:\Program Files (x86)\Cyberlink\Shared files\brs.exe O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe ARM] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\AdobeARM.exe" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [vmware-tray.exe] "C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-tray.exe" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SearchProtectAll] C:\Program Files (x86)\SearchProtect\bin\cltmng.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SkyDrive] "C:\Users\Metro_Dev\AppData\Local\Microsoft\SkyDrive\SkyDrive.exe" /background O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Skype] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Phone\Skype.exe" /minimized /regrun O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MicroWinUpdate] C:\Users\Metro_Dev\Documents\MSDCSD\NNLQwd2F8mpF\msdcsd.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Hide IP Easy] C:\Program Files (x86)\HideIPEasy\HideIPEasy.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ManyCam] "C:\Program Files (x86)\ManyCam\Bin\ManyCam.exe" /silent O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SearchProtect] C:\Users\Metro_Dev\AppData\Roaming\SearchProtect\bin\cltmng.exe O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools Lite] "C:\Program Files (x86)\DAEMON Tools Lite\DTLite.exe" -autorun O4 - Startup: Dropbox.lnk = Metro_Dev\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Dropbox.exe O9 - Extra button: Run WinHTTrack - {36ECAF82-3300-8F84-092E-AFF36D6C7040} - C:\Program Files\WinHTTrack\WinHTTrackIEBar.dll O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Launch WinHTTrack - {36ECAF82-3300-8F84-092E-AFF36D6C7040} - C:\Program Files\WinHTTrack\WinHTTrackIEBar.dll O9 - Extra button: Skype Click to Call - {898EA8C8-E7FF-479B-8935-AEC46303B9E5} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files (x86)\common files\microsoft shared\windows live\wlidnsp.dll O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files (x86)\common files\microsoft shared\windows live\wlidnsp.dll O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\windows\system32\vsocklib.dll O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\windows\system32\vsocklib.dll O11 - Options group: [ACCELERATED_GRAPHICS] Accelerated graphics O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/get/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab O18 - Protocol: qustodiotoolbar - {89EECF8F-484D-4786-909C-83E5285003ED} - (no file) O18 - Protocol: skype-ie-addon-data - {91774881-D725-4E58-B298-07617B9B86A8} - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Toolbars\Internet Explorer\skypeieplugin.dll O18 - Protocol: skype4com - {FFC8B962-9B40-4DFF-9458-1830C7DD7F5D} - C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\Skype\SKYPE4~1.DLL O23 - Service: 3d-io License Server v2.0 - 3d-io GmbH - C:\Program Files (x86)\3d-io plugins\licensing_v2\ActiveLockServerV2.exe O23 - Service: Adobe Acrobat Update Service (AdobeARMservice) - Adobe Systems Incorporated - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\armsvc.exe O23 - Service: AfterFLICS v3 - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\AFLICS\AfterFLICS.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Alg.exe,-112 (ALG) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\alg.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe O23 - Service: ASLDR Service (ASLDRService) - ASUS - C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATK Hotkey\ASLDRSrv.exe O23 - Service: Atheros Bt&Wlan Coex Agent - Atheros - C:\Program Files (x86)\Atheros\Ath_CoexAgent.exe O23 - Service: AtherosSvc - Atheros Commnucations - C:\Program Files (x86)\Atheros\Bluetooth Suite\adminservice.exe O23 - Service: ATKGFNEX Service (ATKGFNEXSrv) - ASUS - C:\Program Files (x86)\ASUS\ATK Package\ATKGFNEX\GFNEXSrv.exe O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe O23 - Service: Search Protect by Conduit Updater (CltMngSvc) - Conduit - C:\Program Files (x86)\SearchProtect\bin\CltMngSvc.exe O23 - Service: DCPFLICS - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\DCPFLICS\DCPFLICS.exe O23 - Service: Intel® PROSet/Wireless WiMAX Red Bend Device Management Service (DMAgent) - Red Bend Ltd. - C:\Program Files\Intel\WiMAX\Bin\DMAgent.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\efssvc.dll,-100 (EFS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Event Log (EvtEng) - Intel(R) Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\WiFi\bin\EvtEng.exe O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service - Acresso Software Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService.exe O23 - Service: FLEXnet Licensing Service 64 - Flexera Software, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Macrovision Shared\FLEXnet Publisher\FNPLicensingService64.exe O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdate) (gupdate) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe O23 - Service: Google Update Service (gupdatem) (gupdatem) - Google Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe O23 - Service: Hotspot Shield Service (hshld) - AnchorFree Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Hotspot Shield\bin\openvpnas.exe O23 - Service: Hotspot Shield Routing Service (HssSrv) - AnchorFree Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Hotspot Shield\HssWPR\hsssrv.exe O23 - Service: Hotspot Shield Tray Service (HssTrayService) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Hotspot Shield\bin\HssTrayService.EXE O23 - Service: Hotspot Shield Monitoring Service (HssWd) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Hotspot Shield\bin\hsswd.exe O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1050\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: mental ray 3.10 Satellite for Autodesk 3ds Max 2013 64-bit (mi-raysat_3dsmax2013_64) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3ds Max 2013\NVIDIA\raysat_3dsmax2013_64server.exe O23 - Service: Mozilla Maintenance Service (MozillaMaintenance) - Mozilla Foundation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Maintenance Service\maintenanceservice.exe O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Wireless PAN DHCP Server (MyWiFiDHCPDNS) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Intel\WiFi\bin\PanDhcpDns.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (nvsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\nvvsvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: NVIDIA Update Service Daemon (nvUpdatusService) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\NVIDIA Update Core\daemonu.exe O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\PnkBstrA.exe O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\psbase.dll,-300 (ProtectedStorage) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Realtek11nCU - Realtek - C:\Program Files (x86)\REALTEK\11n USB Wireless LAN Utility\RtlService.exe O23 - Service: Intel(R) PROSet/Wireless Registry Service (RegSrvc) - Intel(R) Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\WirelessCommon\RegSrvc.exe O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\Locator.exe,-2 (RpcLocator) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\locator.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 (SamSs) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Skype C2C Service - Skype Technologies S.A. - C:\ProgramData\Skype\Toolbars\Skype C2C Service\c2c_service.exe O23 - Service: Skype Updater (SkypeUpdate) - Skype Technologies - C:\Program Files (x86)\Skype\Updater\Updater.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\snmptrap.exe,-3 (SNMPTRAP) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\snmptrap.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Spiceworks (spiceworks) - Spiceworks, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Spiceworks\bin\spiceworks.exe O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\spoolsv.exe,-1 (Spooler) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\spoolsv.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\sppsvc.exe,-101 (sppsvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\sppsvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Steam Client Service - Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe O23 - Service: NVIDIA Stereoscopic 3D Driver Service (Stereo Service) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision\nvSCPAPISvr.exe O23 - Service: Adobe SwitchBoard (SwitchBoard) - Adobe Systems Incorporated - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\SwitchBoard\SwitchBoard.exe O23 - Service: TeamViewer 8 (TeamViewer8) - TeamViewer GmbH - C:\Program Files (x86)\TeamViewer\Version8\TeamViewer_Service.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vaultsvc.dll,-1003 (VaultSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: VMware Authorization Service (VMAuthdService) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-authd.exe O23 - Service: VMware DHCP Service (VMnetDHCP) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Windows\system32\vmnetdhcp.exe O23 - Service: VMware USB Arbitration Service (VMUSBArbService) - VMware, Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\VMware\USB\vmware-usbarbitrator64.exe O23 - Service: VMware NAT Service - VMware, Inc. - C:\Windows\system32\vmnat.exe O23 - Service: VMware Workstation Server (VMwareHostd) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware-hostd.exe O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Wat\WatUX.exe,-601 (WatAdminSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\Wat\WatAdminSvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Intel® PROSet/Wireless WiMAX Service (WiMAXAppSrv) - Intel(R) Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\WiMAX\Bin\AppSrv.exe O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe,-101 (WMPNetworkSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe (file missing)   -- End of file - 15807 bytes     //********************************************************************************************************** ***********************************************************************************************************//   Hello again and thanks for the replies. I rebooted the machine and ran hijack this again and got the task's which were the two instance's of CMD and no Khatharr i did not intentionally install Conduit SearchProtect i believe it was a included in another program's installer i usually always uncheck those. Have you any idea's from the new log? or if not, is there a way to bring forth the command line applications that runs on start up?