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  1. I may be not understanding you quite right, but what you are describing sounds similar to the the solution to laplace's equation. There is a way to calculate it called the method of relaxation I think, you may be able to adapt it to your needs. There is a lot of math jargon surrounding it, however the actual algorithm is conceptually not too difficult. Tomorrow when I am not tired I can try to describe it if needed.
  2. Upgrade the version to 1.0. A version 0.5 makes sense to developers, but if I was just some guy I may be a little confused about buying software version one half. Oh, I just read the rest of the page. You already addressed that issue. Change it anyway. Versions are more or less arbitrary.
  3. It sounds a little like if you would be enlightened (in the philosophy of India sense)? Vastly over simplified, some forms of enlightenment say that you realize deeply that you are one with everything, and you spend eternity blissin' it out with the divine, where the divine is also one with everything, not a separate entity. Would you chose such a fate? I guess one of the main differences is you know before entering the computer program that the program is a subset of a larger creation, which for some people, like me, would make it less significant than enlightenment. But then again, its all one anyways so who really cares :P. I would say no, but I also do not want to be enlightened either, even after studying it and being raised in such traditions.
  4. I was wondering if anyone knows of a library that can do the following: I need to be able to recognize an arbitrary symbol. It does not need to translate to any known characters, just recognize the symbol as unique, and recall that unique symbol when it encounters it again. Which is basically just OCR trained differently. The other thing is it does not need to scan pages of symbols and try to discern distinct symbols. It will be fed them one at a time. For example, someone will write a symbol on a tablet. It will be then told, what they just wrote is a symbol, and then start over. If someone writes it again it should ideally recognize it. Is this beyond our current OCR abilities?
  5. Go to a pistol range and rent a few pistols. Take the basic 30 minute training course they give and fire off 50 rounds through 2-3 different guns. Then go home and research those particular guns. That will be a good starting point for further reading.
  6. From experience, I would avoid dell. Where I work I manage about 40 dell desktops. We have had about a 70% failure rate over two years. It is either the hd or the psu. At least they are good about honoring their warranty though.
  7. Quote:Original post by polymorphed Quote:Original post by Witchcraven And I do wonder if a pentium could in some wierd way be aware of its own exitence in some wierd way no one will probably ever understand. What is really so special about the human body other than its complexity? Its not like its made out of of special living protons. Like you said, the brain is an organic cpu. The body is just an organic machine. I'm glad we agree. My Core2Duo E6400 overclocked to 3.3GHz is a conscious entity. Poor CPU, his life has to suck, being run at 154% of his original clock speed and all. [smile] Maybe I should reduce the clock speed a little, and give him a more comfortable relaxed life. Quote:Original post by Witchcraven Yet somewhere in there some wierd stuff happens where we realize we exist. No, it doesn't. You just agreed with me, the brain is an organic CPU. Consciousness is then a result of the rules and tasks binding the bits of the brain together as Sneftel so very well put it. That would be the wierd stuff. The nature of the rules and tasks is not well defined.
  8. Quote:Original post by polymorphed Now that my universe thread has cooled down, I'm going to join this thread to get my dosage of philosophy. And as usual, I'm going to settle on the far fringes of what's considered sane. Quote:Original post by Witchcraven If you look at any part of the human body, it essentially breaks down into basic physical forces. How does consciousness arise from that? It doesn't. Consciousness does not arise and can not arise from a brain. A brain is just a network of interconnected neurons which works in three basic steps: *** Source Snippet Removed *** In fact, a brain is just an organic CPU. If a brain is conscious, then why isn't a CPU conscious? They are both machines that are composed of non-conscious materials. If you're going to say that a brain is conscious, then a CPU has to be conscious as well. Either that, or you'll have to explain what makes a brain different from a CPU. It's important to make a distinction between the terms self-awareness, consciousness and intelligence. Intelligence can exist in the absence self-awareness or consciousness. Self-awareness can exist in the absence of consciousness or intelligence. Our human brain is intelligent and self-aware. Some animal brains are intelligent and self-aware as well, but most lower animal brains are just intelligent. No brain is conscious, however. I define self-awareness as an entity's ability to recognize itself as a separate entity in the world it perceives. I define intelligence as the ability to process data in some form - a microchip is intelligent by this criteria. I can not define consciousness however, as it is entirely subjective. Consciousness is simply out of this world. I guess I can approximate it by defining it as a subjective experience of existence, but that definition is not perfect. Quote:Original post by Sneftel And yet a person is conscious, despite the fact that he doesn't contain any sort of homunculus, but rather is made up of decidedly non-conscious elements, the same elements that make up decidedly non-conscious things, like molasses. If there's no secret Consciousness-Boson hiding in the brain, then what is there to create that consciousness other than the rules and tasks binding the bits of the brain together? Very well put. I disagree with your model. It implied there is some sort of seperate soul/consciousness thing which is rather metaphysical. I do not think there is anything metaphysical about any of this. Your definition for self awareness is also my definition for consciousness. And I do wonder if a pentium could in some wierd way be aware of its own exitence in some wierd way no one will probably ever understand. What is really so special about the human body other than its complexity? Its not like its made out of of special living protons. Like you said, the brain is an organic cpu. The body is just an organic machine. Yet somewhere in there some wierd stuff happens where we realize we exist. How do we know that non conscious elements like molasses are non conscious? I am not really even sure you are conscious. I just cannot communicate with molasses to ask it.
  9. Quote:Original post by owl Quote:Original post by Witchcraven Is the Earth conscious? Conscious of what? That it exists. Its hard to imagine how something like self awareness could arise from matter and forces interacting. Since I do not really believe in supernatural stuff, it leads me to wonder if any sufficiently complex systems are in some way or another aware they exist. Not to say alive. That is an entirely different conversation, which is probably much much easier to answer. As for the equation being conscious, I doubt it. It also only exists withing you mind. Although if an equation were conscious I would put my money on diophantine equations or on nonlinear differential equations.
  10. Quote:Original post by LessBread I think the flaw in the title question is that it presumes that we are not part of the planet. Last I checked we are and we are conscious. Therefore the answer is yes, the Earth is conscious. It is conscious through us. I agree that we and other life are a part of earth, and we are conscious. But would human interaction contribute to self awareness of a larger object? I kind of think so. The more I think about it the more I think consciousness may be recursive across different scales. Quote: Let's assume that Earth IS some sort of Gaea consciousness, working to preserve itself as it is. Human beings are trashing the ecosystem of Earth. Logically, wouldn't Earth work to directly destroy humans? Yes. Because it's not doing so, by contradiction, there is no Gaea. You keep on making distinctions between the earth and the inhabitants of earth. As far as complex systems go, there is no difference. If earth is conscious it is a very different organism than we are. It probably has different goal (if any). Self preservation probably arose from natural selection, which is a problem the earth doesnt need to worry about. Also, humans are more of a threat to the biosphere than the planet as a whole. Even if the earth does have a self preservation instinct it may not be aware of the human threat yet. I bet it thinks and percieves very slow. Just looking at the biosphere alone though, which may in itself be self aware could have an instinct for self preservation. Maybe it will try to exterminate us. Its probably too early to tell. Plus these things, if they do exist are not animals and probably cannot be treated as such. The mirror test probably doesnt even work well with animals. What if a human is born blind? Guess they arent conscious.
  11. This is somewhat inspired by the universe thread. It got me thinking about consciousness again, which is fun to think about. I only read the first 2 pages, hopefully this has not been discussed already. I have no idea how self awareness arises. But assuming there is no metaphysical basis to it, it is some sort of physical interaction. If you look at any part of the human body, it essentially breaks down into basic physical forces. How does consciousness arise from that? So could something like the planet be alive? Break it down far enough and it is also lots of complex physical interactions. Does self awareness arise from that? It is made of many organic components as well. It is dynamic and changing in complex ways geologically and electrically. Where could consciousness arise? What if the physical interactions that get complicated enough? Would it scale down? Could a human for example, be actually conscious through many size scales? Like could your liver be aware of its own existence, independantly? I wish there was a test of some sort. I do not see why there couldnt be. I do not think consciousness is an unsolvable or unquantifiable problem as long it somehow is based on physical systems.
  12. Doesnt the iphone track like the number of seconds since 1970 or anything like that?
  13. There are a few ladies around these boards. Why not be sexy and fashionable while writing code? The two are not mutually exclusive.
  14. I am having trouble with my network. I have a print server, which controls printing to a laser printer. I also have a bunch of client computers with guest accounts. Now I can print from the guest accounts, until I add a password. Then printing fails. It says the print spooler isnt running. Also I cannot add a printer. Any idea what is going on?
  15. My parents had me tested when I was a kid. I scored pretty high. It added no value to my life whatsoever. I still do what I do and think what I think. I could even make a case that it detracted from my life.