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     'I need to know if the following can be made to work.  'And what are it's limits.   '****************************************************************************************************** 'Coder                                        Top_Of_Page '******************************************************************************************************   'DList$="Donnie was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived with the car ."   DList$="It is time for all good men to come to the aid of their country ."   NewSet=0           ' NewSet=1 for Different TL$,AL$ set than Decoded TL$,AL$ set active   Stream$=DList$   Pi=(atn(1)*4):Mdeg=(180/Pi):Mrdn=(Pi/180):Pi2=(Pi*2)   nop$= Coder$(Stream$,FnlT,FnlA,TL$,AL$)   goto [Cont]   end   Function Coder$(Stream$,byref FnlT,byref FnlA,byref TL$,byref AL$)   Pi=(atn(1)*4):Mdeg=(180/Pi):Mrdn=(Pi/180):Pi2=(Pi*2)   T=1e100   A=1e-100   index=0   [XCdLoop]   index=index+1   if index>Len(Stream$) then [XCdLoopout]   D=asc(mid$(Stream$,index,1))            'note D is always a whole number {ASCII value} '@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@   'R=?                                    'Note;  R needs to pass T and A   R=D+(1/T)                               'T coded into R as whole number and fraction-- 1/T   '****   c=(1/(R*3600))*33   L=(A*(1/360))*13   F=(1/(((L*c)^.5)*Pi2))   '****                                  'A coded into R as L of R thru c and F '@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@   A=atn(1/((R*(1/F))+1))*Mdeg   T=R*tan(A*Mrdn):eR=val(using("###.##########",T*(1/tan(A*Mrdn))))   TL$=TL$;str$(T);" "   AL$=AL$;str$(A);" "   eDL$=eDL$;chr$(int(T*(1/tan(A*Mrdn))));" "   goto [XCdLoop]   [XCdLoopout]   FnlT=T   FnlA=A   Coder$=eDL$   end function '****************************************************************************************************** 'DeCoder                                           Top_Of_Page '******************************************************************************************************   [Cont]   if NewSet=1 then                             'Different TL$,AL$ set than Decoded TL$,AL$ set   TL$="68.0 12.2265105 27.4733551 20.0469824 22.0466327 20.3879743 10.0600121 19.1848888 22.0236299 21.3669502 10.3406324 17.5474093 22.1872612 21.5345227 21.2387626 12.1881826 18.4183448 22.8851907 22.0768607 10.1991144 16.93649 10.5596718 18.8241907 23.1498559 20.3989474 21.8756717 20.6739137 14.8099176 11.4535168 14.5336618 21.8575408 23.1870922 12.4058221 14.8637463 20.5301155 10.0373406 18.1484108 22.2214999 20.1403321 22.6887858 12.5007205 19.5664005 22.5108762 21.3182536 22.6982224 22.6138059 21.8454955 23.0466493 12.6166933 17.640404 21.6858273 22.0400221 21.1910768 21.9258625 10.2225846 14.4184335 22.9350373 20.813042 22.7891465 10.2935919 16.8757692 23.5973387 22.0425742 21.5469479 22.5766286 21.1340446 20.2933903 10.0423385 19.1982576 23.110894 21.7406367 21.6833707 9.95115602 18.9831198 22.8514967 20.031673 10.1195113 17.1935671 21.4100208 21.4948293 10.2903725 10.7835598"   AL$="45 6.28489283 14.0131722 10.3251903 11.8525478 11.4074407 17.4267733 9.15076894 12.7853629 10.5214462 17.883481 9.56830266 12.3829313 10.6929579 11.870103 15.4671949 10.2276626 11.6440628 10.9559451 17.6548061 9.89436961 18.2309521 8.98190364 12.5429429 10.9898128 11.4454287 11.5631092 14.079911 14.5692971 12.402832 10.5757448 11.2994602 15.7311699 11.6516455 11.4824404 17.3900432 9.53028148 12.4016738 11.1648106 11.062318 15.8451605 9.64940083 12.2074858 10.8673929 11.2562253 11.0271762 11.4305508 10.7798722 15.9849183 10.2989216 11.9962446 10.7538024 11.8443269 10.88248 17.6927405 11.0113815 11.0844201 11.7521645 10.6620085 17.8087971 9.85968327 11.6888257 10.9394642 11.5917464 10.8271938 11.8134693 11.4661941 17.39789 9.15702435 12.4071244 10.6113192 11.7720473 17.2509324 9.28603057 12.3863593 11.2133511 17.5231033 9.84279067 12.4396365 10.6735518 17.8022038 13.1664946"   end if   if NewSet=1 then   Lng=Lng(TL$)   FnlT=val(word$(TL$,Lng))   FnlA=val(word$(AL$,Lng))   end if   nop=Decoder(TL$,AL$,FnlT,FnlA)   end   Function Decoder(TL$,AL$,FnlT,FnlA) '???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? '                   Options for trial adjustments '              THE OBJECT IS FOR IT TO WORK WITH NO ADJUSTMENTS '      THIS MEANS IT DECODES WITH ONLY TWO VALUES,the final T and final A. '????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????   Adjust=1        ' Adjust=1 for any Adjust,otherwise no adjustments made.                   ' q=1  every actual T, adjust specified A                   ' q=2  adjust every other T, use every actual  A                   ' q=3  adjust specified A, adjust every other  T                   ' q=4  adjust every other A, adjust every other  T                   ' q=5  use actual A,no T adjustment                   ' q=6  use actual T,no A adjustment                   ' q=7  use actual A, use actual T   M$="1 2 3 4 5 6 7"   q=7   M=val(word$(M$,q))   Pi=(atn(1)*4):Mdeg=(180/Pi):Mrdn=(Pi/180):Pi2=(Pi*2)   DL$="":efDL$=""   T=FnlT   A=FnlA   index=0   [XDCdLoop]   index=index+1   n=Lng(TL$)+(index*-1)   R=T*(1/tan(A*Mrdn)):D=int(R):DL$=DL$;str$(D);" "   if n=0 then [XtDDcd]   c=(1/(R*3600))*33   F=R*1/((1/tan(A*Mrdn))-1)   L=(((1/F)/Pi2)^2)/c   A=((L/13)*360)   T=1/(R+(D*-1))   if Adjust=1 then nop=Adjust(M,n,TL$,AL$,A,T)   goto [XDCdLoop]   [XtDDcd]   for j=1 to Lng(DL$)   n=Lng(DL$)+1+(j*-1)   if val(word$(DL$,n))>0 and val(word$(DL$,n))<256 then   efDL$=efDL$;chr$(val(word$(DL$,n)))   end if   next j   print efDL$   end function '********************************* some option functions*********************************************** 'Word length of string:   Function Lng(byref Stream$)   j=0   [Loop]   j=j+1   Ele$=word$(Stream$,j)   if Ele$<>"" then [Loop]   Lng=j-1   end function '?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? '                 Adjuster for testing '?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ' Testing options to see what is working and what is not working.   Function Adjust(M,n,TL$,AL$,byref A,byref T)   Option=M   select case Option   case 1   if n=23 or n=68 or n=48 then A=val(word$(AL$,n))   nop= Actual2(AL$,TL$,n,A,T)   case 2   if n mod 2>0 then T=val(word$(TL$,n))   nop= Actual1(AL$,TL$,n,A,T)   case 3   if n=23 or n=68 or n=48 then A=val(word$(AL$,n))   if n mod 2>0 then T=val(word$(TL$,n))   case 4   if n mod 2>0 then A=val(word$(AL$,n))   if n mod 2>0 then T=val(word$(TL$,n))   case 5   nop= Actual1(AL$,TL$,n,A,T)   case 6   nop= Actual2(AL$,TL$,n,A,T)   case 7   nop= Actual3(AL$,TL$,n,A,T)   case else   end select   end function '????????????????????????????????????? '            Actual value T and/or A '?????????????????????????????????????   Function Actual1(AL$,TL$,n,byref A,byref T)   A=val(word$(AL$,n))   end function   Function Actual2(AL$,TL$,n,byref A,byref T)   T=val(word$(TL$,n))   end function   Function Actual3(AL$,TL$,n,byref A,byref T)   A=val(word$(AL$,n))   T=val(word$(TL$,n))   end function
  2. Onedream

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    Alright,   You ask me to summarize what the concept is,so you'd know  know what it's about.   So I try to give you an idea of what it's about and you  want to understand the details,which I skipped.   You try to relate it to something you already know,which  if you do, then I don't need to show you.  Figuratively speaking,You can not take one piece of,a 100 piece,puzzle and understand the entire puzzle.   I told you what it is supposed to do;,If you want to understand how,then you need the details.  I can show you with, Just Basic 101 code,Which is explained in the Just Basic 101 help file.  I said I'm not a programmer,so I can only show what I,m doing and tell you why I did it.   Like a puzzle,You'll have to see how the pieces make sense to understand the whole concept. .   I'm not on here to waist anyone's time.   I'm looking for someone interested in the concept and in taking time and energy to communicate with me  in the best way I can,and do their own program,understanding. .   Is it worth it?? Only if I'm right. .   I'm done;,unless someone really wants to discuses this,my way.   Because, any other way is wasting all of our time.   Figuratively speaking,I don't want to ride a dead horse   If anyone is interested,let me know. .   I'm meaning no disrespect,I think you all have been more than patient.   I just think you can understand lines of program better than a line of my explanation,without it.   Either way, thanks for trying.
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    Albert,  As I said earlier,In the Coder you get feed back,that can modify the output.  Remember that output is dependent on string TL$ and String AL$ created in the Coder as input to the Decoder. I tried to start by explaining the Coder and Decoder because if you do not understand them,then you can not use the codes to do logics. It is thru the Coder that the format for logics is processed. It is thru the Decoder that the over all progress is recorded. This is a case of { you have to crawl thru something before you can run thru it. } You actually have to have two Coders or a Coder with two modes to make the logics work. The only way I can explain this is to say,Think of the Coder and Decoder as the central processor unit for logics.CPU for logic. Can you explain a computer without explaining the CPU?
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    Alberth,   If I modify the code going into the decoder,then I produce something other than what was put in. Then I can compare the logics of input against the logics of output and input corrections until the out put is what I wanted or thought. If it is worthy of remembering,then it is stored.
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    correction Chart at http://i.imgur.com/5qp29AM.jpg
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    This is to demonstrate a general idea of my thoughts I thought it may be helpful in understandinng the over all concept. . Let's consider the perfect system. That is where everything,or every modual, works perfectly. . In the perfect system everything is considered as feed back. . Think of a frame,be it picture or text, as a camera frame,as seeing something. The frames of experience and memory are already in code so this is for a temporary memory to work with the others. . Now this is one frame.  // remember the frame is concidered feed back form somewhere.// . He saw that the person was injured in the hip and this is what he saw. _____......XX...... _____.....XXXX..... _____......XX...... _____...XXXXXXXX... _____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX _____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX _____.XX..XXXXX..XX _____..X..XXXXX..X. _____....XXX.XXX... _____..Injury.XX...__mild injury _____....XXX.XXX... . . This is feed to the coder for coding. Now the coder reads it one line at a time. Accumulating the code,one character at a time.The accumulation is zeroed after each line. Now code 1 is line 1 Code 1 is text code. code 2 thru 9 is picture code. code 10 is text and picture code. code 11 is picture code. The total of the codes is the frame code. . . {Remember this is the perfect system.} Now;,At the same time the coder is compiling the perfect code,to record the frame in one code. This is to say that the frame can be reproduced from one code,by the decoder. . What!!!?? Ok,in the perfect system the last T and the last A is all that's needed in the decoder. finalA=atn(( 1/( ( R*(1/F) )+1 ) ) )  finalT=R * A . And in the perfect system These two can be changed to one code, Code=? ,such that-- sub Code -- produces; . He saw that the person was injured in the hip and this is what he saw. _____......XX...... _____.....XXXX..... _____......XX...... _____...XXXXXXXX... _____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX _____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX _____.XX..XXXXX..XX _____..X..XXXXX..X. _____....XXX.XXX... _____..Injury.XX...__mild injury _____....XXX.XXX... . Just for thought--If I have the right Code, I can produce a frame that has not been seen yet. . Note that the above is two separate functions,done in one system. . Now other possible functions are. 1. read by words 2. read by fragments.remember a fragment can by a statement or a section. // fragment enclosed in { }. // 2a He {of all persons},should know. 2b  _____{......XX......} _____{.....XXXX.....} _____{......XX......} _____{...XXXXXXXX...} _____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX _____.XX.XXXXXXX.XX _____.XX..XXXXX..XX _____..X..XXXXX..X. _____....XXX.XXX... _____..{Injury}.XX...__{mild injury} _____....XXX.XXX... 3. word codes Fragment Codes 4.Modify,annualize,record,act on //note logic as well as neural analyzers 4a characters 4b words 4C fragments 4d lines 5.send to analyzers 6.read feed back for; Modify,annualize,record,act on 4a characters 4b words 4C fragments 4d lines 7 save experience //remember one Code. 8 feed new frame and repeat. . We do not have the perfect system,But,it may be worth looking at what we do have. This is the coder. . The relative address is a different function,that uses the one coder function--Code. Which in turn is used in logic analyzers. 
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     if I did it right you can get a chart lay out here--http://i.imgur.com/5qp29AMs.jpg     This concept is about using known memory,so some data has to be preconceived. Also,This concept is about using known experience,so some data has to be preconceived. But the idea is to use this to get to a point,to teach the machine to learn to teach and learn by itself.  Like:  A teacher teaches a student until the student starts teaching the teacher.  . The concept has several potential uses,we have to figure out which ones are useful and how to use them efficiently. The expression "Thinking out side of the box",comes to mind.   _ie:   A direct path in memory vs tracking thru folders. __________Experience  The value here is it eliminates folders in Memory\.note also in Experiences\   make folder Breads   make folder Biscuits  make folder Four  store file-- Flour Breads.txt  path$=Breads\Biscuits\Flour\Flour.txt    . and : ________Future Use  "Breads\Biscuits\Flour\Flour.txt" --get coder is 0.465444.  copy  Flour Breads.txt to Folder 0.465444.txt store file--Memory\ Folder 0.465444.txt . input$= "Breads\Biscuits\Flour\Flour.txt"- sub get memory input$- call Function get memory input$ displays-- Memory\ Folder 0.465444.txt which we already know is Flour.txt. note:: If it did not display Memory\ Folder 0.465444.txt  then we know it is not an experience in memory. . What are other scenarios of this use?? . _ie: _________Logics Pnt stands for a made up axis,penitral.{ commonly known as the z axis}.My thought is it's a main axis that never was named,so I named it. ______________Experiance Find the rules of rotation and Pnt/Hrz // Angle>0 and Angle<90// . The ie's here; are just to demo logic. %=Pnt/Hrz  +0,Hrz>0 and Pnt>0     // logic the rotation is atn(%)+0---ie 34+0  +180,Hrz<0 and Pnt>0     // logic the rotation is atn(%)+180--  atn(25/-36)== -65+180= 115  +180,Hrz<0 and Pnt<0     // logic the rotation is atn(%)+180--  atn(25/-36)== 65+180= 245  ect. code(1) is "+180,Hrz<0 and Pnt>0" related to "+180" by contents  as is code(2) is "+180,Hrz<0 and Pnt<0" related to "+180" by contents  So I can obviously reason the operation of code(2) and code(3) is "+180" and the rotation of Hrz<0 and Pnt<0 or Hrz<0 and Pnt<0 is atn(%)+180 . rule(1) if Hrz>0 and Pnt>0 then add 0  rule(2) if Hrz<0 and Pnt<0 or Hrz<0 and Pnt<0 then add 180  . _______________Use Stat's are like "10110110" where any 1 is an active code and 0 is non active code. Weights are used the same as neural weight, can be used to modify or relate the active and non active.  // I probable did not say that right,but I hope you can get the idea. Weights are use in place of Stat's.   Rule(1)="+0" Rule(2)= "+180" Rule(3)= "+360"   row______________column 1_code=5__________0 2_code=2__________1 3_code=6__________1 4_code=4__________0 ____total=17____gain=8 _______________loss=9---  // total-gain //   column$="1 2 3 4" loss is the loss value. column$="loss-9 loss-? loss-?--ect" if loss=9 then column=the value of word column$(1) if column=1 then rule=Rule(2) . This is like a triple step to say the rule,let's say, for colomn 1 is +180 if column 1's loss is 9.This allows the rules to relate to different columns.   This is a clue of what we can do;,But,Not all of what we did to do it. But,once set up;,Can we do logics and reasoning on other things?? . There are more,but these I see as the most important,and hardest to relate to. Note here the codes are temporary,for the process.
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    I.ll get back to all soon.My wife just had an operation on her arm,so I'm tied up at the moment
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    conquestor3   Sound like the area of what I'm doing.
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    My thought:: The value of the overall concept is that it leads to a way to give computers the ability to do logics and relating things in way we do A way to do reasoning and create it's own programs.   But this isn't an oblivious trait. You have to work into seeing it. Only then, will you know,how to use it.  I need to show a chart to explain this. But if I see several bread receipts with  only flour as common ingredient. I can reason to call them "flour bread  receipts"
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    Will if I draw an apple,and say 1 apple is equivalent to 50 cars on a chart. Then you know 1 apples is 50 cars,on the chart. . Now if the coder only outputs .023433 if "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived." then you know .023433 is "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived."  . A logic relative created symbol is like this.   I said .023433.txt   //the symbol,not drawn but written     which you see as  "I said John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived." then you know .023433 is "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived.txt"   .   or .  He said  .023433.txt //the symbol ,not drawn but written         which you see as  "He said John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived." then you know .023433 is "John was here,for a while;,But,He left,shortly,after Judy arrived.txt"   . This is two logics with the same statement. Thus you can relate them by the statement.ie;The symbols with the statement--.023433  .   Now remember the symbol statement "I said .023433.txt" can also be run thru the coder.ie 0.7344 is"I said .023433.txt"   Each code is logically unique.  Just as *.txt is not *.dll.
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    My language is English,at least it used to be. I just never wrote thing out,because I can't spell,and when I try writing I worry more about writing than what I'm trying to say. I get in a hurry and you see what happens. Normally I use some drawings to explain details,seeing,charts ect, covers a lot of detail. A bit map board on the forum would be nice. When I try to post a layout,it doesn't post right. Form the replies I figured no one even understood any part of what I was doing,so I thought it was useless to continue. Look like someone finally has a clue,so if anyone is still interested,I'll slow down and try to explain what I can. When I try to explain to far ahead I'm trying to explain some abstract logics that I don't quite know how to yet,So a little explanation is better than a lot. I will try and do better,but no promises . The Coder is a function that outputs a relative code,a single value. Relative meaning it relates symbolically directly to the original string Let's say that a string is any variable with $ on the end of it.ie; stream$="This is a string variable" And let's say code is a number returned form a coder routine.ie; code=function coder(stream$).stream$ is the input and code is the output. Now make the code a string,Code$=str$(code).note str$(code) is a function.  Using Code$,let's create some abstract relative symbols.I say abstract because these are not your typical symbols,and I say relative because we know the code was coded form a stream$,thru the coder.We know the origin,process and final output, and we know the code is only produced by a specific string,such that a specific code symbolizes a specific string.ie;such as define 0.32733 is; 0.32733 is "This is a symbol".  . Symbols: label.32733.txt File.32733.dll picture.32733.bmp [0.32733] function0.32733()  . So I say a single characteristic gives relativity to the whole group. All the symbols relate to Code$ because they each contain the symbol Code$,which  symbolizes the string in the new symbol.  . When I post the page doesn't post the way I wrote it,so here is an attempt to columbize note the data is just to show place,not actual data. In the Stat/Weight columns any 1 means active,so add active codes,this is gains. In the Stat/Weight columns any non 1 means nonactive,so add nonactive codes.this is losses  ----Note that Stat or Weight indicates active or nonactive   note that 1 can be a stat or a weight,if the weight is 1 then the line is active.   String$......Code........Stat/Weight.......Stat/Weight........Stat/Weight......Stat/Weight "here is"___0.1______0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________1__ 1______ 0__0.323 "here at"___0.2______0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________0__ .222___ 0__0.323 "here he"___0.3_____0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________1__ 1______ 0__0.323 "here In"___0.4 _____0__ 0.0034_____0__ 0.222________0__ .222____ 0__0.323 _________total=1.0______sum1_______sum2_________sum3=0.4______sum4 //remember add the codes not the weights// relation of gain=sum logic__________________gain1_______gain2____gain3________gain4 relation of loss= total-gain logic__________________loss1_______loss2___loss3=0.6_____loss4  . Let's summarize this pattern. Total=gain+loss  loss=Total - gain gain=Total -loss  . Now let's include a default string and code. This is about the relationship of, what is said, and what is understood. Stream$ is said.DefaultString$ is what is understood. . If subject is about attitude. ie; DefaultString$ ="She is crazy"----Stream$ ="She is sick" If subject is about health. ie; DefaultString$ ="She is ill"----Stream$ ="She is sick"  if a different order, but mean the same, and you need a default order. Hx=horizontal x:Vx=vertical x ie; DefaultString$ ="Hx<0 ,Vx>0"----Stream$ ="Vx>0 ,Hx<0"  note the data is just to show place,not actual data.  . DefaultString$...Code..String$..Code..Stat/Weight..Stat/Weight..Stat/Weight..Stat/Weight "what is"_______.8__"here is"_0.1___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___1__ 1______ 0__0.323 "here at"_______.9__"here at"_0.2___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___0__ .222___ 0__0.323 "who he"_______.6__"here he" 0.3___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___1__ 1______ 0__0.323 "when In"______.5__"here In" 0.4 ___0__ 0.0034__0__ 0.222___0__ .222___ 0__0.323 ___________total=2.8___total=1.0______sum1______sum2___sum3=1.4______sum4 //remember add the default codes not the not the string codes// relation of gain=sum logic_______________________________gain1_______gain2____gain3________gain4 relation of loss= total-gain logic_______________________________loss1_______loss2___loss3=0.6_____loss4  . Now let's include a understood string and code. understood String$=."she has mental problems" .1232  I want to know what I understand form what you tell me.  String$ is what you tell me."she is sick" DefaultString$ is a common string."she is crazy"  understood String$ is what I see common string as."she has mental problems" "she has mental problems".This is what I understand.  . Why do all the coding??::because like ,machine language,it is a background code for logics.  . Let's say you have three systems,conscious ,sub conscious and memory conscious. The conscious askii as source. The memory conscious is code as experience. The sub conscious is askii to code as mixer and compiler. sub conscious and memory conscious become an automatic back ground operation working with code logics.  Memory either has a code or it doesn't because it can only copy itself to the same place,therefore there are no duplications in memory.  Memory is fast due to code relativity. Relativity in the sense that "label.32733.txt File.32733.dll picture.32733.bmp [0.32733] function0.32733()" has a default symbol -- default0.32733.def  such that if x$="picture.32733.bmp" then  the default is 0.32733 is  default0.32733.def is  function0.32733(x$)  if memory is faster,then feed back to sub conscious is faster and feed back to conscious is faster.  . This is to show how the Known list is compared to the column Active list.  __________Known...........................................Tank _____stream$___code..................stream$___code____column1__column2__column3__ect _____flour______0.645.................chili______.8233______0________0________0______ect ____eggs______0.645.................flour_______0.645_____0________1________0______ect note 1 in a column, is an active ingredient.  . In this case the column Known is Donuts so if the Active list matches the Known list then the column is Donuts. Or could be the Relative code-the active sum. ___________Known:: . _________Name$_____code _________Donuts___0.392361 . ___Stream$____________code__ __flour______________0.653866432 __eggs_______________0.653866434 __salt_______________0.652905741 __butter_____________0.65290573 __vanilla ___________0.652905747 __milk ______________0.652905736 __water _____________0.652905742 __yeast _____________0.652905733 ____________________Total___5.225167295 __________________________Relative code=0.392361+5.225167295 Note Relative code could be 0.392361+sum of the active Losses form Total This relates the name to the list and vise versa and the total. . By arranging in descending order the lists are in a common format for operations by operation I mean comparing,locating,sorting,ect. ._________Name$_____code _________Donuts___0.392361  ______Known Descending_______________________________Active Descending __0.65290573________butter......................................__0.65290573_______butter __0.652905733_______yeast .....................................__0.652905733_______yeast  __0.652905736_______milk ......................................__0.652905736_______milk __0.652905741_______salt.......................................__0.652905741_______salt __0.652905742_______eggs ......................................__0.652905742_______eggs  __0.652905747_______vanilla ...................................__0.652905747_______vanilla __0.653866432_______flour......................................__0.653866432_______flour __0.653866434_______eggs.......................................__0.653866434_______eggs _____________Relative code=0.392361+5.225167295___-__sum=0.392361 or Donuts  . The over all system give us the pattern of how all logic relations can be handled,real logics as well as abstract logics. By pattern I mean a repeeting accumulating system to handle all logics and relations.For lack of a better term I call this relativity. first pass....second pass one dimention logic...more than one dimention logic_____Note part of the logic learning process. H>0........H>0,V>0 V>0........H>0,z=0,V>0 z=0........z<0,H<0
  13. Onedream

    Potentual new concept

    guys,I'm done. sorry I took up your time. I was honestly trying show something. I appreciate your honest remarks.I just bit off more than I can chew. You guys have been more than gracious.Thanks again.Bye. last post.
  14. Onedream

    Potentual new concept

    I'm listening,trying this?? We have all asked the question;,How does the mind do what it does? How does birth develop into a being of specific classes. Like anything else;,It follows a basic pattern with deviations or mutations. No matter what the physical means is,The intelligence is messaging, language,codes of logic,programs. There is one big question,How does the mind do relativity? This is the one thing that leads to creativity,understanding,self awareness. So what is the basic pattern and how does it work? Neural science is part of the pattern. My concept is about another part of the pattern. The model_T of a concept,if you will?,To be developed over time. Messaging, or programming, is the one place {abstract reasoning} makes sense,as a real tool. one apple is 5,000 cars.We use that {abstract reasoning} kind of logic in charts all the time,only we call it symbolisms. Yet,We do not think "symbolisms" we think "using one thing to represent other things" Now here is the relativity. relevant Stream$="what is" Default Stream$="using one thing to represent other things" Given Stream$= "symbolism" {form exsperance} Memory Stream$="what is symbolism, abstract reasoning, using one thing to represent other things " Ok.I can pull out "abstract reasoning" out of memory and that may be enough for Joe. However now relevant Stream$ must be "what is,for Joe" and related to Memory Stream$ for that option. Bill might need a code number {a symbolic location} to find a more complete explanation. Now relevant Stream$ must be "what is,for Bill" and related to Memory Stream$ for that option Code wise: With the Default Stream$__code as a reference. Options codes like Default Stream$__code + relevant Stream$__code is Option_code The relativity is not in the function,but rather in what the code{symbols} represent. The function is how they are stored or read. Now if I want to create a symbol code every time I say "using one thing to represent other things" I can say 4.23 is "using one thing to represent other things" But if I want to create a relative code{symbol} I use the coder to create it. Now if when I say "using one thing to represent other things" and it goes thru the coder,I have the relative symbolic code. Call it abstract,but relativity is an abstract operation. What are the rules for abstract operation or logic? One different between inches and feet---get a longer stick! The coder generates relative codes.{relative symbols} But it also can generate modified or mutated relative code,and print what they represent. {apple} is a symbol {apple for 5 cars} is a relative symbol This is the heart of my concept. Relative code {symbols} have hidden clarity;,Like bare and bear.
  15. Onedream

    Potentual new concept

    MarkS I can appreciate that.Point taken. Give me another 66 yr's,and I'll get back to you. L.O.L I never did a lot of writing.As you can imagine.
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