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  1. Luigi Lescarini

    Needed advice for an enjoyable AI in Buraco card game

    Just an update. I spent the last days trying to learn as much as possible about the ML world, i've watched a ton of videos, read lot of articles and got my hands dirty (just a little bit) with two practical courses (https://www.udemy.com/deeplearning/learn/v4/content) and (https://www.udemy.com/artificial-intelligence-az/learn/v4/content). I have not finished them yet (of course!) and i have to say that i only scratched the surface of this very intriguing world, by the way i feel more comfortable with all the terms and the concepts that were used in this thread (they looked so obscure to me only some days ago). Thanks to some replies in this thread and on a parallel thread i opened in Stack Overflow i see now that my project requires a very solid understanding of a big chunk of the ML stuff and it could also lead to unpleasant results. As far as i understand the best strategy (intended as a mix of 'easy to implement' and 'acceptable results') would fall between heuristic and MCTS. Please, feel free to comment my statement and any other kind of advice. Thanks!
  2. Luigi Lescarini

    Needed advice for an enjoyable AI in Buraco card game

    Hi Alvaro, thanks for your reply! As i said before i’m very new to ML so i need to be addressed in the steps that are related to it. I’m quite motivated for this project and i’m not afraid to learn something new, so please suggest me the resources you think i need to learn. I’ve already built a library/engine (in javascript) that plays complete matches (a match is a set of rounds) for 2 or 4 players, it has all the rules, the scoring, etc etc. Instead of picking an action at random (as you suggest) i’ve built a very basic heuristic to make the players play. If you want to know more about it i think you know to have a better knowledge of the game. I take this opportunity to underline that in this game the player has to take different decisions : on his turn he has to decide if drawing a card on the top of the deck or taking all the cards that were discarded ‘till that point. Then he can make multiple plays until he decides to discard a card and pass the turn. As you can see even this adds a bit of complexity. Can you elaborate on this? Unfortunately i do not understand this (my ML gaps! :/) The only thing that i understand it’s that i need to store the history of the game state. In this moment my library has a state object that stores all the information needed to carry the game on in the current step, it deletes what is not needed. I can easily adjust this. I think/hope this will become clearer when i will understand the step above No, i have not. If you think that the reinforcement learning can be a viable option i’m very excited to try it. I’m eager to learn it. Let’s focus on it. However i have to say that more details in the monte carlo approach interest me as well You are very welcome to help me on this 😃 😃 😃 😃
  3. Luigi Lescarini

    Needed advice for an enjoyable AI in Buraco card game

    Thanks for your reply. I know that the problem in the heuristic approach is ... my heuristic I developed 4-5 heuristic for other card games and i would discourage anyone taking that route : for any non trivial game this approach requires a LOT of tuning, a LOT of knowledge of the game (expert knowledge) and usually you end with a code that is very difficult to mantain or refactor. Let's add to this that the AI should play in a cooperative enviroment with another AI or a human... When you ask me : "As always, however, my initial question to you is... how do you play the game? What information do you take into account when playing? How do you use that information to make your decisions? Therein lies your AI.", i suppose you are suggesting me to make some considerations to build a good heuristic, well, i think i already took in account those... but they fall in to the issues i underlined above. I'm a beginner in this game, i know the rules perfectly and i played like 100 games, i will never be an expert and i do NOT want to become en expert, i want to be en expert developer, not gamer. Having expert friends can help but not so much: they play as ... humans, most of their strategies come from their unconscious part of the brain and they, for sure, will forgot to cover some game scenarios when they try to teach you something. I've already done this for other games.
  4. Hi, i’m trying to build an effective AI for the Buraco card game (2 and 4 players). I want to avoid the heuristic approach : i’m not an expert of the game and for the last games i’ve developed this way i obtained mediocre results with that path. I know the montecarlo tree search algorithm, i’ve used it for a checkers game with discrete result but I’m really confused by the recent success of other Machine Learning options. For example i found this answer in stack overflow that really puzzles me, it says : "So again: build a bot which can play against itself. One common basis is a function Q(S,a) which assigns to any game state and possible action of the player a value -- this is called Q-learning. And this function is often implemented as a neural network ... although I would think it does not need to be that sophisticated here.” I’m very new to Machine Learning (this should be Reinforcement Learning, right?) and i only know a little of Q-learning but it sounds like a great idea: i take my bot, making play against itself and then it learns from its results… the problem is that i have no idea how to start! (and neither if this approach could be good or not). Could you help me to get the right direction? Is the Q-learning strategy a good one for my domain? Is the Montecarlo still the best option for me? Would it work well in a 4 players game like Buraco (2 opponents and 1 team mate)? Is there any other method that i’m ignoring? PS: My goal is to develop an enjoyable AI for a casual application, i can even consider the possibility to make the AI cheating for example by looking at the players hands or deck. Even with this, ehm, permission i would not be able to build a good heuristic, i think Thank you guys for your help!
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