We're breaking the argument, folks. Etnu - while I'm sure you find it laudable to correct error, you're a moderator on this forum. As such, I'd expect a bit more tact, and a whole lot more subtlety. OpenGL_Guru - while I'm sure your motives are laudable, your tactics are not. You're not backing up your arguments, and you're coming across as borderline hysterical. Reasoned arguments, man. The point is not to make others ridiculous. The point is to get your point across in a way which makes it not only plausible, but logical. When you concentrate more on the aspect whereby you make others look ridiculous, you are entirely missing the point. Personally, I didn't enjoy the "lumping together" I got with Open_GL from Etnu. I'm a separate poster, and a separate person, with separate viewpoints, so kindly treat me as such. I gave my references, I cited them, yet the only response I got was a condescending note saying that the ACLU makes "silly" lawsuits, and a satirical, mocking reply that I somehow believe I'm being thrown to the lions. Should you like to actually debate the rest of the points I brought up, I'd be happy to do so - or, perhaps, even the points I brought up to support my argument? Mocking your opponent is not only poor debate etiquette, but an example of a lack of respect for your opponent. If you'd like to debate the issues, Etnu, I'd like to kindly ask you to do so. Christians are not your verbal punching bag, and I don't intend to be one. If you don't want the debate you began, kindly say so, and admit it. Pseudo-arguments don't impress me much, I'm afraid.