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# pico vs emacs vs vi vs edit vs notepad

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### #1Sean T. McBeth  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:38 AM

Watt i5 teh |3estest txet 3ditar evar?!?!?????!??!??!?!????!!?!??!!!! my answer is encoded somewherez in my message.
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### #2Extrarius  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:39 AM

Encoded? Why would you encode an answer when its so obvious?

### #3mittens  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:49 AM

### #4Taulin  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 05:52 AM

Once you know the commands, vi is the best. There is so much it can do. However, it has a steep learning curve that deters most poser programmers.

### #5Sandman  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 06:07 AM

I''d just like to say that emacs is horrible, or at least that version of emacs (is it X-emacs or something) that involves all those stupid mouse+keyboard combination shortcuts.

### #6Oluseyi  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 07:49 AM

Emacs is a great desktop environment and email client. Too bad it lacks a decent editor.

Honestly, they all suck. I haven''t bothered to actually look, but I have yet to encounter an editor that brings nirvana (PFE included). It doesn''t help that I include appearance as a criterion.

### #7wild_pointer  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:28 AM

nano!

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### #8Eskhan  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:32 AM

Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:33 AM

VI!

emacs seems too clunky. I like vi cause it''s seems so lightweight. It''s easy to learn the basic commands too.

### #10Unspoken Magi  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:36 AM

SciTE owns all.

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### #11zer0wolf  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:42 AM

I didn't realize there was a competition here... its notepad, obviously.

And please learn how to spell, you make yourself look retarded when you mix 1337 with mispelled words.

[edited by - zer0wolf on May 27, 2003 5:42:42 PM]

### #12superpig  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 08:57 AM

copy con

but seriously I use nano and vi quite a lot, along with gEdit; under windows, usually notepad (or MSVC - notepad can''t handle some EOL characters for some reason).

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Posted 27 May 2003 - 09:16 AM

vim is the best for me. Code block folding, very clean, regexps, and too much more. It''s tough to break into but just like Linux, give it a year or two and it''s the fastest damn thing you will ever use.

Current vimrc if anyone is interested (check out the statusline setting, hehehe):
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Vim internalsset nocpset vb set autoindent set nobackupset hiddenset numberset rulerset laststatus=2 set statusline=\ \ %03.5c\ :\ %03.5l/%03.5L\ \ \ \ \ %-03.3m%-04.4r\ %-050.50F\ "set insertmode""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Foldingset foldmethod=indentset foldcolumn=2set foldlevelstart=99""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Tabsset ts=4set expandtabset softtabstop=4set shiftwidth=4""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Key bindings" Misc keys"imap     :foldclose"imap      :foldopen"imap      :!make"imap      :bp"imap      :bn" Quit, Save, Open, Newmap  :q!map  :wmap  :e\ map  :enewimap  :q!imap  :wimap  :e\  imap  :enew" Find, Find Next, Replace, Find Tagmap  / map  // map  map  :tag " Close New Prev Next buffer controlsset hiddenmap  :bdeletemap  :enewmap  :bnmap  :bpimap  :bdeleteimap  :enewimap  :bnimap  :bp" XMMS controlsmap    :!xmms -rmap    :!xmms -pmap    :!xmms -tmap    :!xmms -f""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Universal syntax highlightingset autoindentsyntax onhighlight Todo          ctermfg=red              highlight Comment       ctermfg=red                highlight Error         ctermfg=white   ctermbg=red        highlight PreCondit     ctermfg=darkgreen        highlight Operator      ctermfg=darkgreen         highlight Conditional   ctermfg=darkgreen          highlight Include       ctermfg=darkgreen           highlight Structure     ctermfg=darkgreen            highlight Statement     ctermfg=darkgreen             highlight Type          ctermfg=darkgreen              highlight PreProc       ctermfg=darkgreen               highlight Macro         ctermfg=darkgreen                highlight StorageClass  ctermfg=darkgreen                 highlight Repeat        ctermfg=darkgreen                  highlight Label         ctermfg=darkgreen                   highlight String        ctermfg=darkyellow           highlight Float         ctermfg=darkyellow            highlight Number        ctermfg=darkyellow             highlight SpecialChar   ctermfg=darkyellow              highlight Character     ctermfg=darkyellow               highlight Boolean       ctermfg=darkyellow                highlight folded        ctermfg=white   ctermbg=bluehighlight foldcolumn    ctermfg=white   ctermbg=bluehighlight statusline    ctermfg=white   ctermbg=bluehighlight linenr        ctermfg=white   ctermbg=blue

### #14shatter  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 09:17 AM

anybody out there work with ultraedit? I love it...I was all about notepad until I found ultraedit.

### #15Witchcraven  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 09:22 AM

pico you fools! VI is teh suck. No one shoud learn how to use an editor, it should be totally obvious.

### #16cowsarenotevil  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 09:25 AM

Notepad and EDIT are the best, simply beacause it''s so easy to have fun with the menu''s in a hex editor. You should see my new version of "notepad"... hehe...

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### #17rohde  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 09:52 AM

I use edwin for my Scheme stuff. Edwin is the same as emac (just with Scheme instead of Lisp). It''s true that it has a steep learning curve but when you''ve got it all memorized it works really well...

But as a true text editor I''d choose TextPad.

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### #18Arild Fines  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 11:05 AM

I''ve been using gvim on Windows for quite a while now(2 years). It sucks for a lot of reasons, including, but not limited to:

- The cursor cannot be outside of the visible area. If you try to scroll away from the cursor, the cursor follows.
- Managing larger projects with more than a couple of files is awkward at best
- You are required to save a buffer before changing to another
- The adherence to Windows UI standards is sketchy at best, even when sourcing mswin.vim
- It leaves you very dependent on your .vimrc - it''s pretty hard to use when you''re at a location without your own .vimrc

[X]Emacs is just huge...

Notepad is pretty useless since it cannot handle files with other line ending styles than CRLF. The fact that it has no autoindent and no way to change the tabsize doesn''t help either.

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### #19kordova  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 11:08 AM

### #20MrPoopypants  Members

Posted 27 May 2003 - 11:15 AM

why would anyone need anything else besides notepad?

[edited by - MrPoopypants on May 27, 2003 6:15:57 PM]

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