CT scans are quite dangerous. I'm not against nuclear plants, but having them near a town, to me, is asking for it.

Among the known social facts associated with the dissemination of GE crops are the continued consolidation of the seed industry and its integration with the chemical industry. Another is the change in relationships between farmers and their seed suppliers. Testimony to the committee suggested that farmers of major crops have fewer opportunities to purchase non-GE seed of the best-yielding cultivars even when a GE trait is not perceived to be required in a particular cropping situation.

And there we have one of the apparent driving forces behind GM - corporate greed.
I would be a lot more confident in the technology if it were at least extensively tested before commercialization, which probably necessitates the public sector. Fortunately, China is starting to invest heavily there, so maybe we will see improvements actually aimed at feeding people instead of profits.
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There is a kind of dark irony there, dont you think? I mean, they tried the whole 'people before profits' in China quite thoroughly, just a few decades ago, and it was the single bigest lollercaust in human history. LOL?

Rethoric such as yours is of the same type of creepy as talk of 'final solutions'. Except of course that yours is fashionable.
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No, that was still profits before people. Force farmers into state-run farming groups so the state can buy low and sell high. That so the money raised will go into steel production and create more profit. Also, many farm workers were forcibly moved from the farm to the steel factories because of this plan by Chairman LMAO. Just because it's publicly peddled as "for the people" doesn't mean that's what it is.

You know better....

Patents are publically available as part of the whole process; you cant patent anything behind closed doors. So give us a few examples, or STFU.[/quote]
Bullshit. German, UK and US patent laws - and certainly others - provide for `secret' patents/applications under rather loosely defined circumstances. See http://www.ipo.gov.u...ecuritylist.pdf for examples; in Germany, it's basically "whenever the exterior safety of the Federal Republic might be negatively affected".

Rethoric such as yours is of the same type of creepy as talk of 'final solutions'. Except of course that yours is fashionable.[/quote]
Thank you for proving Godwin right yet again. I don't intend to dignify further ridiculous comments along those lines with a reply.

You know better....[/quote]
Sadly, it's not apparent he does.

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There are conspiracy theories that renewable energy is not further developed than it is because there are powerful vested interests in the current fossil fuel business, and therefore against renewable energies.

That's not a conspiracy theory, it's common knowledge -- e.g. lots of alternative energy inventions are patent-horded by those "powerful vested interests"...
[/quote]Yeah, its common knowledge, just like 'people use only 10% of their brains'.

Patents are publically available as part of the whole process; you cant patent anything behind closed doors. So give us a few examples, or STFU.

Next time you adhere to a conspiracy theory, pick one that at least makes sense. There is no incentive whatsoever to sit on a fossile fuel busting technology. The profitable thing to do would be to take it into production, the other branches of your company be damned.[/quote]Next time you tell someone to "shut the fuck up", try doing 10 seconds of googling first.

As for incentive - the emergence of new technologies lowers the value of existing infrastructure. Also, investing in infrastructure for new tech is risky while the pace of innovation is still high. Safest bet is probably to proceed with development in private, while stifling competitor's developments, until new tech is mature enough to warrant large scale investment (which in turn will significantly devalue existing oil-based investments).

As posted above though, why post at all if you're just going to use straw-man arguments and generally be an offensive ass-hat? Forum software should automatically lock threads upon posting of the word "godwin"...