A Concern Regarding Operating Systems and Technical Influences

Ben Bowen · 2012-07-21T12:29:50

If Windows 8 is the next in line, behind Windows 7, then I don't want to develop games for Windows anymore. Each version brings a few important features, but they completely spoil it to an overall negative improvement, by absoluteness. Due to Windows 8's unbearable terror, even if Windows 7 stays dominant for quite a long time, I wouldn't be stupid to let that pass. I'm considering developing for Linux, but from my experience, it has quite unstable/unreliable drivers. The people building desktop environments for Linux have some mental problems alike Microsoft, too. Mostly, I'm concerned by the "UNIX environment" that's associated with Linux. I'm one of those people who believes that programming languages shouldn't have been carried on since the advent of NLS. I'm bothered by how many people consider long, homogenous strings of characters as the golden interface to the computer (one of those UNIX philosophies): Programming Schemes, Search Queries, User Interfaces (Even sneaked into "Graphical" User Interfaces) and the most idiotic of all: Media Encoding (i.e. XML). I could rant a lot about very stupid GUI design decisions, but there's so many of them, and that's beside my point. To elaborate this redundancy: I'm just disappointed by everything in the software world! Where's the hacker ethic gone? Why is the industry engulfed by Java-abusing "IT guys" ? Why is UNIX the only alternative class of operating systems that anyone talks about? Why isn't UDI implemented abundantly? Why do people keep excusing their laziness for: "High capacity hard drives are getting much cheaper. Memory's hella cheap. People's processors are like super computers compared to the 90's. I don't need to worry about my approach anymore. I have a massive canvas to work with!" Well no. You don't have a massive canvas to work with. Yes, people's computers in the 90's were much less powerful, but at least people tried to conserve their resources to some extent. Don't you realize how long people have been saying this? Yes, hardware has always been getting cheaper, but can you imagine how much more you could do if everyone utilized these resources graciously? (The answer is: No.) My ultimate problem regards the ecosystem of a computer. Your shit affects my shit. That's why propriety software is retarded. If the big players make shit, then I have to deal with it, especially if its an operating system. Sometimes it doesn't matter how well your compiler can optimize. Two well-written assembly programs which achieve the same design goals can result with widely different performance, depending on which techniques were utilized to implement them. But the technical problems rendered to Windows are of a much worse case. This simple issue I speak of now seems far beyond their pathetic problems. I hope you enjoyed this rant. It might need to be moved, but I tried to place it in the right forum.

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Started by Ben Bowen July 18, 2012 05:18 PM

34 comments, last by rip-off 11 years, 9 months ago

tstrimp

1,798

July 21, 2012 02:21 AM

To add just another note - Windows was built from the ground up to look pretty for the consumer market.... Linux was built from the ground up to get S*** done.
if you were a good programmer you would notice the difference.
Windows API's is over complicated and slow.
Linux development is easy to understand and fast.

"Hahaha - you can't make a Processor go faster ,young padawan, but you can however make it do less..." - just throw that in there to (microsoft style... ;D)

Not sure if you're a troll, or just ignorant. My vote is on the latter. Anyone who can say with a straight face that that Linux development is easier than Windows development hasn't done one or the other. Building a GUI application with WPF and building a game with XNA on Windows are much, much easier than building their counterparts on either Linux or OS X. The same is true of mobile development. The tools and environment for WP7 development is far more accessible than Android and iOS.

Stormynature

5,198

July 21, 2012 02:56 AM

Yes. Close it.

+1

The context of this thread is being argued by multiple people with differing levels of skill and knowledge in a very technical answer through their own perspectives. This is not to denigrate anyone's skill set mind you. Each person has their own set of experiences and viewpoints but I don't really see much common ground being established or for that matter real discussion happening between both sides that leads to agreement or even a civil "well we shall have to agree to disagree. At best, without pointing fingers it seems to bounce between addressing technical issues and WTF are you smoking? The only truth I can take from this entire thread is that all the operating systems available atm have issues which are annoying to the user which is all and good but doesn't get beyond a cyclical argument that progresses nowhere.

I should point out this post is from my non-tech perspective.

kunos

2,256

July 21, 2012 04:58 AM

Linux was built from the ground up to get S*** done.

So... what kind of shit are you doing on linux exactly? Beside attempting to troll (and being pretty bad at it) on a forum of course?
One of the reasons nobody will take linux seriously is useless trolls like you storming the forums. You, as the OP, stop embarrassing yourselves, what's the attraction in being considered stupid? Beats me.

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NathanielBennett

126

July 21, 2012 10:00 AM

Yeah alright, little bit of a troll.

Linux is just soo much unbelievably faster then windows, it's unreal.
Again saying that, nothing is much slower either...
Trolling? Proof? Mac , Linux - my G4 powermac boots and launches photoshop faster then my PC gets to the login screen.

Anyway... All I know is if It has "Made by MICROSOFT" printed on it - it's usually terrible :
Windows Mobile - terrible
Windows Phone 7 - terrible
Windows Azure - look pretty good actually
Windows 8 - terrible
Hotmail - terrible.
Silverlight - Used to like that, but has been discontinued.
Xbox - Best thing they've done. Microsoft will ruin it , I'm sure of it.

And plus XNA really all that good? - tried it but the projects that come out of it seem very 'weekend'y - and I know a lot of these people spend months on them.

Trolling? Hmm...maybe - actually yes, trolling. But you can't say that I'm not right - I am right.

Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.
—Will Rogers

NathanielBennett

126

July 21, 2012 10:07 AM

And Kunos - get some Fucking balls. No one gives a shit about Trolls or fangirls.

I'm pretty bad a trolling? your fucking terrible at insulting people.

Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.
—Will Rogers

NathanielBennett

126

July 21, 2012 10:09 AM

Ugh, I really can't be assed...

Closed the thread, and delete me as a member. - I really hate wasting time.

Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.
—Will Rogers