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#1 sylynce   Members   


Posted 22 August 2014 - 08:43 PM

So, a while back a friend and mine were talking, and like many other people here, we decided it would be a great idea to make games. We both loved playing games, but we both started to find current games lacking. With us both boiling at the rim with ideas we began to start getting our first game design idea down. The thing is, both of us are more idea, mechanic, writing, kind of guys to which neither on of us have any programming or much of any art skills. that being said, I have a programming friend who is willing to help us with the Unity engine,but he lives rather far away and its not always easy to get on the same page with him. So I plead with you, the community, what are we to do. we both feel really strongly and are highly motivated to make this little dream of ours come true. Any help and advice from people in similar situations, or from people who have gone on to successfully complete some games would be greatly appreciated.


#2 Metalbreath   Members   


Posted 22 August 2014 - 10:03 PM

Distance is not a problem. If you all 3 have a passion for it you could easy start a share project (Google drive / Dropbox etc).

You don't have to create a game with Crisis 3 max graphic.

Games are not only about graphic but gameplay.

Have a look at SpeedRunners.

In other words keep in touch from skype (group), arrange meetings and have a share folder for having 24/7 access to it for the while team.

Many indie teams work as freelance :)

Go for it!

#3 LennyLen   GDNet+   


Posted 22 August 2014 - 10:52 PM

So I plead with you, the community, what are we to do.


Learn how to do it yourself.


If you have trouble coming to an understanding with your friend who can use unity, then you're probably better off learning how to do it for yourself rather than relying on them and having a falling out later on which leaves you back at square one.  If you're going to be using a pre-existing engine such as Unity, then content creation is just as important as, if not more important than, programming skills, so unless your friend is also an artist, you're going to need help in that regard anyway.


My advice for a course of action would be to download Unity, find some tutorials and play around a bit.  Then when you need help, you can ask more specific questions that people here can help you with.  At first, you don't need to make something pretty.  But you will need to make something if you want to get other people on board with you to show that you are committed to the project.  There are a million people out their with ideas but the only ones that get help are the ones who do some work first.

#4 WhiskyJoe   Members   


Posted 23 August 2014 - 01:27 AM

I'm with LennyLen on this one. Either find a programmer that is on the same page (or simply does what he has been asked to do) or do it yourself.


If you are going to do it yourself, Unity has plenty of resources available to get you started and to build upon that, but be aware that a lot of work has to be done if you want to be on the same level as more experienced developers. Not only do you have to do plenty of programming, but also design the game (having some ideas is not the same as designing) and create the art/audio for it of which each of this principle is a job on its own.


Especially for people who are just beginning, it will be a long road with a lot of pitfalls, which isn't to say you can't do it, but let those pitfalls be the motivation to do it better next time around. Learn a lot and have fun doing it. Good luck! :)

#5 Gian-Reto   Members   


Posted 25 August 2014 - 03:48 AM

+1 for learning to do it yourself.


As has been said, Unity is pretty good to get you started. If you are willing to invest some time and are quick to pick up new things, you get things moving in Unity quickly. They won't be pretty, there will be lots of problems to sort out yet and it might not be exactly what you imagined, but its a working game, kind of.


As Rld_ said, be aware that you might be years away from realizing your dream game on your own (but most probably also multiple years of savings away from paying anyone to do it). If you don't like that thought, either scale down your idea to the bare minimum or abndon the idea to create your own game.


Relying on others to do the work is always risky, even more so if you cannot pay them. If you are not on the same page about your idea with your programmer friend, that might be a problem. If you are not able to work close together, it might be a problem, as Unity projects get big quickly, and there is a problem working on the same project with multiple people. You will need some way of synching your work and making sure nobody is overwriting stuff someone else created in the meantime. I am sure your programmer friend knows all about these pitfalls, its solution is what is known as "sourcecode management" or "version control" in the technical world.


I'd say you should learn some basics anyway even if working with your friend works out. If all you can provide are ideas and mechanics, you will be not very valuable for a good part of the development. No offense, but usually you should have more programmers and artists then game designers in a team. If you cannot get to grips with code, make sure you can contribute the art. This way your contribution will be "easier to grasp" so to say, and your programmer friend will see you as valuable co-workers on the project. 

Also, somebody has to do the level design. This is, thanks to the easy to learn Unity Editor, more something that needs a lot of time than technical knowledge or artistic skill (of course, level design is both highly technical and an art if done right... but to start off with it, you just need to be able to use the editor). I am pretty sure your programmer friend will be quite happy if someone of you two will take on this role, to make sure he can use his time for programming instead. Here of course the issue with exchanging your Unity project will be the biggest issue which you need to solve first.

Edited by Gian-Reto, 25 August 2014 - 03:54 AM.

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