quote:Original post by Dobbs

quote:is it optimized for preformance?

That''s a pretty meaningless question since C# is a language. You can''t really say a language is optimized for performance, although you could ask whether a C# compiler produces nicely optimized code.

You can certainly design a language in such a way that it''s compilers have an easier timer generating optimized code. The question is wether C# was designed to be easy compilable (is that a word?).

It is much more powerful, it has all features of C++ and then some more.
It is also more efficient for prototyping and quick test apps, all you need is a form that you create and run, only a few lines of code without bothering with a wndproc.

But to be honest, all the forms/event/property stuff of the forms has been available since 1995 as Delphi. This is just Microsoft''s implementation of those great ideas.

Performance wise, it''ll be somewhat slower, but a decent programmer can avoid that.

quote:Original post by johnny carmackle


It isn't! its slow

I'll be sticking with C++

LOL

you call 95-98% of the top performance of C++ slow?

rofl I find it funny when I see people complain about speed/performance with C#. The reason is because if you aren't writing 100% optomized C++ code than yes, C# will be faster in many cases due to the fact that if you follow the guidelines it is fairly optomized on first write. Once the C# 2.0 spec is released with Whidbey the compiler is even more optomized, plus generics/anonymous methods, etc.

The funniest thing is though that I'm guessing most of the people posting about the great speed of C++ haven't been able to use it at maximum performance with optomization (and probably idle around 80-90% of the maximum performance of the language/compiler), which in the end could mean C# programs running faster than their own in C++ =]


Now don't get me wrong. I am not an idiot that goes around wearing a shirt saying C# or C++ being a propaganda wagon for the language like a lot of people. I think the biggest thing people need to realize is that they are all just tools to use, nothing more. It all depends on what you are trying to do, as I will use either C, C++, C#, ASM, or IL ASM depending on what I am trying to accomplish.



[edited by - Imperil on January 7, 2004 9:38:06 AM]

quote:Original post by Imperil
The funniest thing is though that I''m guessing most of the people posting about the great speed of C++ haven''t been able to use it at maximum performance with optomization (and probably idle around 80-90% of the maximum performance of the language/compiler), which in the end could mean C# programs running faster than their own in C++ =]
<SPAN CLASS=editedby>[edited by - Imperil on January 7, 2004 9:38:06 AM]</SPAN>

Huh? what the cuckoo is that supposed to mean? Haven''t seen such gibberish in a long time here...

quote:Original post by Anonymous Poster

quote:Original post by Imperil
The funniest thing is though that I''m guessing most of the people posting about the great speed of C++ haven''t been able to use it at maximum performance with optomization (and probably idle around 80-90% of the maximum performance of the language/compiler), which in the end could mean C# programs running faster than their own in C++ =]
<SPAN CLASS=editedby>[edited by - Imperil on January 7, 2004 9:38:06 AM]</SPAN>

Huh? what the cuckoo is that supposed to mean? Haven''t seen such gibberish in a long time here...

Why are you one of them?

Language is the least of the worries when you''re talking about speed and performance. Half the people posting take it as gospel that you can have a horribly coded C++ application run faster than a perfectly coded C# or java program which is simply not the case at all.

Gibberish? Maybe you have problems with the english language? I clearly stated that most people DO NOT code to maximum optomized performance. There are MANY ways you can solve algorithms or tackle problems, and most people are not able to do it at best possible level.

Now if you have an application that isn''t fully optomized (which is much harder to do in C++, trust me I had to do it professionally for year!), than your optomized version is obviously going to run faster, language is not the issue.