...... And if you choose to react in rage again like you did the first time you replied to the first post I made in this thread, then please, try to keep it civil.
'sooner123' said:
…… And if you choose to react in rage again like you did the first time you replied to the first post I made in this thread, then please, try to keep it civil.
Your first post was both rude and unfounded given that you had no knowledge of the company in question or Hodgman's attitude while working there. If you wish to comment on start-ups (or anything else) do so without stooping to unnecessary and unfounded attacks on other posters.
Warning issued.
Expressing that concern by... telling a stranger that their attitude and lack of effort caused the failure of a company. That's not a very civil way to join a discussion and it demonstrates an attitude problem you need to address.
I'm sorry if that's how my post was taken. But I was expressing a legitimate concern.
Even if this fellow feels slighted by my comment, he very well may fall into the category that I stated he fell into. As I said, I'm sure he's a great programmer and a great guy.I may infact be lazy and disloyal, but I'm a great guy... What are you smoking?No I don't get your point, sorry, and that's quite an ignorant thing to say. Again, you're making assumptions about my effort and then blaming that assumed lack of effort for the failure of a company... I don't know what to say...
If you had really put your heart and soul into that venture, you can't claim they would have sunk like they did. Aren't you one of the best most valuable programmers in the universe? Get my point yet?
Sorry to make some assumptions of my own, but from what you've posted, it seems fairly clear that you're a student with no industry experience, or real knowledge of how the games industry functions.
You can put 50 talented, motivated and loyal programmers, artists, designers and producers into a room - you can have them pour their hearts and souls into a product - but that doesn't mean you're operating a business in the black. All of that genius constrained by one bad business manager can still result in the failure of a company. To put that in perspective, 50 staff on an average of $80k p/a is an overhead of $11,000 per day -- business concerns have a huge impact on development.
And FYI, I'm not talking about the failure some little student start-up company here, I'm talking about the collapse of a multi-office, 400-staff veteran development company.I see a major component of the risk of a startup being that you don't know the quality of the people you hire first hand until things are working out or it's too late.Then you've probably never been involved in a start-up company then... One of the things that you'd be including in your pitch submission is the experience and resumes of all the staff involved in the project. IME, either you hire people with proven records, people you've worked with first-hand, or you hire unproven people and pay them peanuts. The risk assessment part of your submission would've set off alarm bells if your core employees were unproven.
