very important equation desentralazing

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[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Alvaro already told you how: "[/font]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Do you just want to solve for a1 in the last equation? If you multiply both sides of the equation by the denominator of the right-hand side and you expand, you'll get a polynomial of degree 3 in a1. That can be solved analytically or numerically."[/font]



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This equation will only work for two bodies and will not be possible to expand to more, so pretty boring.

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[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]People have been working on these problems for hundreds of years, you should listen more carefully on the previous posters. Numerical is the way to go here.[/font]

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I have already made the equation for 3 bodies, wait a moment and i will post it, its much more complex, and i get to point were i have a much bigger polynomial to solve, and as i get to 4 I can generalize it now and get an equation that will be for whatever number of bodies. Why do you want to stop me? its Exxxperrience for me. Yes i read the post from Alvaro but i cant solve the polynomial, can you solve it for me?

I have a minor mistake in the first equation were i said a1=-a2, it should be a1=-(a2*m2)/m1, I am working with tetrahedrons of same mass so there is no problem there.
here it is, the equation for whatever number of objects:

http://imageshack.us.../685/sdfjm.png/

i cant do it...can some math expert help me with it. How can I get out of that? there must be someway already invented to solve that cycle of an equation inside the other inside the equation inside the other inside the equation inside the other......infinite.

here it is, the equation for whatever number of objects:

http://imageshack.us.../685/sdfjm.png/

i cant do it...can some math expert help me with it. How can I get out of that? there must be someway already invented to solve that cycle of an equation inside the other inside the equation inside the other inside the equation inside the other......infinite.

You don't understand. What you are trying to solve analytically has no analytical solution. I already explained why in my previous post, I will repeat it here - these equations are nonlinear, with feedback (as you noticed with the equation-inside-an-equation pattern). Those types of equations cannot be solved by ordinary algebra. You need numerical methods to work with those.

... unless of course you found an earth-shattering method for doing what everyone has failed to do for many years...

“If I understand the standard right it is legal and safe to do this but the resulting value could be anything.”

But are you sure, I don't believe that, i have already seen similar math problems before,but those are just some weak memories of mine, so the only thing i can tell is that it can be solved,I just need a real math expert to see my equation, i am pretty sure it can be solved. I want Alvaro, the man looks like an expert, Alvaro! plz come here an tell me the truth...

here it is, the equation for whatever number of objects:

http://imageshack.us.../685/sdfjm.png/

i cant do it...can some math expert help me with it. How can I get out of that? there must be someway already invented to solve that cycle of an equation inside the other inside the equation inside the other inside the equation inside the other......infinite.


Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-body_problem

Educate yourself and stop wasting everybody's time.

But are you sure, I don't believe that, i have already seen similar problems before,but those are just some weak memories of mine, so the only thing i can tell is that it can be solved,I just need a real math expert to see my equation, i am pretty sure it can be solved. I want Alvaro, the man looks like an expert, Alvaro! come here an tell me...


Here: http://en.wikipedia..../N-body_problem

Now educate yourself and stop wasting everybody's time.
Its common that the feeling of annoyance can be awaken when someone else has discovered a problem and makes himself loud and noticed by others that are in any way connected to you, knowing that the same thing happened before with the same problem and probably many times before with another person, but! as you have defined yourself as a discoverer of the world you should have already notice that that feeling will cause wrong neurons in your brain to get exited, wrong because you will start relating that feeling with the one of ignoration, and as you have seen throught relations of mathematical equations you must have already discovered that this world is all about relations, but you haven't!(you will not get it, as i do, words are not enough), your brain has set a common reaction, a way of thinking and as you do whatever of the things you do you will still be the same, thats a natural way of reacting by our human desing and you must discover how can you change that to continue that natural reaction of sensing(the senses) and making it more sensible.
What if i told you i know how to do it, i don't, maybe i will, MUAAHAHAHAHAHAUHUHUHUHU!!!! bye.
Can't believe I fell for the troll...
Pretty obvious in hindsight.

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