Just thinking...

According to my knowledge, most strategy games don't have a lot of story because of the open and decision based nature of strategy games.

What would you guys think if there was a more story based strategy game? Maybe a little more restricted in terms of choice but with more story options.

Maybe the different factions have complicated relationships and you can somehow manipulate that to make things happen.

Also unique lore and cities with different backstories that overall affect the game.

Very underdeveloped idea, but some feedback would be nice:)

Maybe you can use events or goal achievements to unlock new parts of the story, with a solid background.

Oops, didn't mean to include the word "hardcore" in there.

Maybe you can use events or goal achievements to unlock new parts of the story, with a solid background.

Definitely. That sounds like a really solid idea:)

I dunno about hardcore, but I like story-based campaign games, from RTS to time management to tower defense and even some dating sims and adventure games might count. Starcraft 1, Ranch Rush, Plants vs. Zombies, Vampires vs. Zombies, Disgaea, Harvest Moon: Save The Homeland, and a wide assortment of interactive story games are all examples of good story-based games where gameplay is more or less strategic.

Yeah, somehow the word "hardcore" slipped into the title there. I've played some of those games (Plants vs. Zombies, Starcraft) but I'll check out some of the other ones for inspiration:)

Starcraft supplements it's hardcore multiplayer mode with a story-based singleplayer mode (which is pretty hard if you choose hard mode).

Even though their story is pretty damn terrible (in SC2) and there's not much meaningful choice (branching), there's enough lore about the factions / relationships / characters to get people really involved in it, spawning fan-fic, spin-off novels, etc...

Agreed. The story wasn't great but it's really easy to get caught up in the lore. Definitely aiming for good story/lore as well as gameplay.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions!

Keep em coming:)

The original Warrior Kings had a fairly definite story that branched out in just sufficiently. I think you might wanna look into that as a baseline.

(Please ignore the slightly cheesy begginning when Artos' father is killed and his home town is burned to the ground...)

The original Warrior Kings had a fairly definite story that branched out in just sufficiently. I think you might wanna look into that as a baseline.

(Please ignore the slightly cheesy begginning when Artos' father is killed and his home town is burned to the ground...)

Never heard of that game...will check it out when I have time!

Thanks for the reply:)

What would you guys think if there was a more story based strategy game? Maybe a little more restricted in terms of choice but with more story options.

It depends.

To me, the idea of a 'story based game' is a bit of an oxymoron. A game may have a background story that provides some context and theme for a game, but if you try to shoehorn a linear concept such as a pre-written story into medium which is fundamentally non-linear, something is going to suffer.

Sometimes it's the story - the author is forced to try and think of every eventuality, and/or accept the fact that sometimes things will happen that don't make a whole lot of sense. In either case, the effort involved in writing the story balloons as you try and cover all the possible branches, often with the result that overall quality suffers.

Sometimes it's the game. In order to retain the sense of the story, the player is forced onto rails, with limited choice. The player can't even fail - there's no 'win' or 'lose', its more 'finish the story' or 'don't finish the story', usually with boredom or frustration being the cause of the latter. Or perhaps the game is interspersed with an excess of non-game fluffery, long text sequences or cutscenes with no TL:DR option. And once I've sat through the whole thing, what motivation is there to play it again?

Often, it's both, to some degree.

On the other hand, all games have a story - the meta-story the player experiences during his own path through the game. This to me is a far more dynamic and interesting area to explore than a fixed, handwritten plot. If you can establish engaging lore and backstory, and provide the players with the gameplay tools to do so, they will tell their own stories. And those stories will be unique for every player, on every playthrough.

So to answer your question: If you can make an engaging'meta-story' experience, I will definitely play it and enjoy it. Otherwise, I might have a quick play of your story based campaign, but the chances are, unless you can avoid committing any of the Strategy Game Story Deadly Sins, I probably won't finish it, and head off to multiplayer/skirmish instead.

Thanks for your deep insight!

I was thinking of going with a non-linear storyline, where you can go around conquering different cities and through that you trigger different story bits which play major parts in the actual gameplay. I was thinking of putting a heavy emphasis on human relationships, which can be manipulated for tactical reasons. And through this the story can be expanded beyond what is given to the player.