Trump Is The Republican Candidate - Now What?

Gian-Reto Alig · 2016-09-29T23:17:03

Sorry for kinda bringing this up again, don't want to beat the dead horse here... but given that victory really is against all the early bets, and is something of a miracle given the many missteps Trump did during his campaign, I feel like it is worth opening the discussion again. Trump is one of the two candidates - now what? 1. What do you think are his chances against Hillary, which seems to be not very popular even with democrats voters? Given how everyone thought he would never make it to become the republican candidate, might he once again suprise everyone? 2. There is now a good chance the next US president is Trump. What are the consequenses? Might he be able to make the US loose their last arabic ally, the Sauds? Is he able to mend the relationship with israel which have worsened under Obama? Or will he make everything worse again? Will he meddle in other foreign topics he should rather not touch, like the TTIP discussions with the EU? Might China and Russia have free trade agreements with the EU before the US thanks to that? 3. He made a lot of promises, some of which are quite outlandish. And I think he has shown that while he is quick to promise money, he never really pays out of his own pocket. Will he realize all he has promised? What about the wall to mexico? What about throwing the muslims out of the country (or not letting them in anymore at least)? And who will pay for these sometimes outlandish ideas? Will the cost of these projects cost him the second term? Or will he rudder back on his promises, and that costs him his second term? 4. What about the current racial unrest thanks to shootings of blacks by the police, and police officers now getting attacked? You think this will still be going on by the time Trump might get into office? Given his racist comments and the reaction of some black folks to them, do you think he will make things worse? I think, given how much is at stake and the least EVERYONE around the globe needs now is another authocratic or unstable regime, this are all important questions to ask. I am not sure myself if Trump is just as bad as some people make it look like. Then again, Erdogan started as a normal, elected president. People were just concerned about him being a little bit conservative. Now just look at him and his schemes... So really, I am asking myself if we need another politician that might turn out to be a wolf in a sheeps clothing. Is Trump that? I don't know. But I personally wouldn't want to risk anything at the moment. Disclaimer: No, I personally also wouldn't want to vote for Hillary. Don't think she is a good candidate.

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Started by Gian-Reto July 20, 2016 06:41 AM

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BHXSpecter

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July 20, 2016 06:19 PM

I think he will continue to double down on his extreme comments and people will start to pull away from supporting him; being forced to vote for Clinton. Either way we are screwed no matter who wins.

I don't support Trump, but I also don't support Clinton. Both are just two variants of bad news for the country.

Sounds more like voting for the lesser evil

I've stated from the start that voting for Clinton or Trump is voting for the lesser of two evils. Even stated on Twitter that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.

Luckless

3,283

July 20, 2016 06:21 PM

Interesting how many Europeans ( and one Canadian ) are negatively replying to this post - I didn't know you's cared so much about the politics in the US !

Well US politics are kind of important to other parts of the world, so lots of us will care a great deal for stability and social progress in the states if for no other reason than for how bad for business things can be. This is especially true for Canada because of how geographically linked we are to the US. Trump isn't well loved by many around the globe for his habit of throwing gas on the fire of racism violence. "Not exactly helpful" would be putting things mildly.

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BHXSpecter

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July 20, 2016 08:26 PM

Don't know. I know they keep focusing on Trumps business failures, which is normal for a company like his. Then you have Clinton's email fiasco where the FBI Director basically stated that "I'm to dumb to know better" or "I didn't know it was illegal" was a valid defense for endangering national security. I died when he said Clinton may not have known it was illegal...former lawyer, former First Lady, former Senator, former Secretary of State.....if she had all those jobs and didn't know, then that doesn't bode well for her being President. One of Trump's sons stated that Trump would let someone else worry about foreign policy and politics while he focuses on "making America great again". So Trump wants the title, but delegate someone else to do his job while he focuses on a fictional ideal? Neither are looking very confident for the title of POTUS.

Servant of the Lord

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July 20, 2016 08:50 PM

One of Trump's sons stated that Trump would let someone else worry about foreign policy and politics while he focuses on "making America great again". So Trump wants the title, but delegate someone else to do his job while he focuses on a fictional ideal? Neither are looking very confident for the title of POTUS.

Even worse, Hillary said she'll let Bill Clinton take "the economy" as his pet project as first dude.

While he'd probably do a great job (and likely better than Trump), that's an incredible delegation to someone who'd not officially be in any government position other than "spouse of the president".

conquestor3

1,592

July 20, 2016 09:14 PM

Delegating foreign affairs is basically the ideal I think, though. The odds of someone being the best possible person for it, AND being able to win a campaign are incredibly slim. This is basically an admission that it's not his strongest suite, and he's willing to find the best person for the job.

_the_phantom_

11,263

July 20, 2016 09:24 PM

The full quote I saw said 'foreign and domestic affairs' which sounds pretty much like 'everything'...

I mean, if you want a head of state who does nothing you always tear up that silly little 'independence' thing you guys did and Liz can take over again for you... in fact that might be a win, she is probably more on the ball than Trump in most matters ;)

BinaryOrange

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July 20, 2016 09:48 PM

All I know is that I am no longer proud to be a citizen of these United States.

We had better candidates on both sides, and THIS is what we could come up with?

Someone I know (TheComet) through another forum pointed out that he couldn't believe how much this election is turning out to be reminiscent of the movie "Idiocracy". I couldn't agree more.

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Hodgman

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July 20, 2016 10:27 PM

Do I vote third party as a protest vote? Yea, 'cause that's worked so much in past elections.

You guys really need preferential voting. There's no reason *not* to vote for a minor party that you prefer here - -

Without a viable third party vote, you're basically a two-party dictatorship :P

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Luckless

3,283

July 20, 2016 10:39 PM

US two party voting gets even 'more interesting' when you look the whole electoral college thing. "...these voters directly elect designated intermediaries called "electors," who almost always have pledged to vote for particular presidential and vice presidential candidates..." Because "Voting for a guy who then casts his vote without having to tell us about it before hand..." sounds so very legit and sensible.

I also greatly prefer a Parliamentary style system, as it seems to be a system which "Sucks the least". Sadly Canada's system has become overly party focused, and too many people get overly focused on leaders, but our Prime Minister is still elected as only a minister the same as all the others, and then the minsters choose the PM. The beauty of this system is that if some horrible scandal comes out the day after the election and absolutely no one in the country likes whoever the PM is, then we don't need another election. The house just picks a new leader and we get on with business.

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