Kid Programmer

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I am looking for a simple/easy game development ''kit'' for my son. He programs Lego Mindstorms and wants to do a ''game''. I have seen Klik & Play...but these are older games and I can not find this software around. I want to find something that he will have that instant gratification and avoid the discouraging moments (at least at first). Any suggestions?
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How old''s your kid?
I''d suggest Visual Basic, I guess, but, it''s never too early to teach your kids about drugs... I mean C...
actually, I hear that VB is the best interface with mindstorms.

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My son is almost 10...so not quite sure he would have patience for VB. I thought there was a ''package'' or ''kit'' that could be used to do simple games (basically the same format of game...but could be changed/customized, etc...)

He is currently playing with some NQC (and RCXcc) for Mindstorms...

Thanks
You might want to see if you can pick up one of those really old programmable consoles or perhaps an AppleIIe, and a couple of books to go with them. I started programming when I was 8 on a TI99/4A, and the reason it was appealing was the fact that the language was incredibly simple and it really didn''t take much to get basic text, pictures, and music working. Eventually I moved on to harder things, but it''s important not to be overrun with frustrating and complex topics when you''re getting started, especially at that young of an age.
Another thing to consider is LOGO, which was actually developed to give children better access to programming at a young age. You can learn more about this here.

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I once found a a program on download.com called matrix or something similar. Also in the resources section there are programs that allow you make games without any programming. I would recommend the real way. VB would be nice to start or C I have heard of people learing C before the age of 10. so talk to him and see what he wants.
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I remember when I was about that age I was trying to program on the Apple ][e with AppleSoft Basic using the book Computer Literacy. My dad started trying to teach me that book for as long as I could remember. The first example program was a scrolling rocket. I remember spending weeks modifying the rocket and making my own. I just ran the example programs and were amazed by them every time. My cousin always brought over text and graphical adventure games and he would play all day long while I watched. That's when I knew I wanted to program my own games. I don't know if kids these days care about cheeezy ASCII-type graphics programs, but thats how I got my start.

After that, I moved on to QBasic, which was almost the same, plus you could add sound & graphics to your programs easily. I read QBasic By Example so many times I probably knew it by heart at the time. The first big thing I did was modifying the games that came with QBasic, Nibbles and Gorilla. I changed teh colors and various other small things and it was fun to invite my friends over and asking them which version they wanted to play. I tried to make my own text adventure game but never got beyond the intro and the first room.

That's about all I did until 6th grade when at school we had Apple ][s and used Computer Literacy as our textbook and I was able to blow away everyone, including my teacher, with what i could do.

Well, that's basically my partial life story. I hope it helps a little.

- TMOLI 42


Edited by - TMOLI 42 on June 3, 2000 2:16:47 PM
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There are several game making programs out there. Klik & Play is one I''ve used. Really though, although they do give instant gratification, there''s not much in them linked to programming. I found that Klik & Play soon became very irritating and limited, and it''s not much of a stepping stone to learning to program games.
I started learning to program with QBasic when I was about 12. Simple text and graphics only really.
I''m 16 now, and i''ve now moved on to C++. The transition is pretty easy but still it''s very hard to actually get something resembling a game to work. I''m still struggling to make something that looks better than most of my Klik & Play games.
I don''t know if there''s any sort of simple programming based game creator out there, but I''d start with Qbasic anyway.
Hope that helps.
Frank
Go to www.clickteam.com They are the group that originally made Klik & Play for Maxis. They have a newer version called the Games Factory that does advanced stuff Klik & Play does not do, like screen scrolling, saving data, etc. You can even get the Pro version which grants you license to sell games you make with it. They have an online store at their website. You can even download extensions for this program. Good luck!
VB is the easiest way to code the MindStorm toy cause it has a control to do it, other ways include NotQuiteC and other stuff.

I''ve heard the Game Factory is quite good actually.

And a while back Interplay offered this Learn To Code in Basic program which was quite cool actually.

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