If you go to a mall and buy something from some small little booth in the back that popped up yesterday, and a few weeks later is breaks on you, do you go and complain to the land lord and the company who made the retailer's tools? Not their problem.You aren't buying this stuff From steam, you are buying it From the mod developer Through steam.
All this through not from is mental masturbation and gaming the system to make it look borderline acceptable.
The seller is responsible, who is the seller if I buy a mod through Steam?
If I buy a mod, on my CC it'll appear I must pay Valve/SteamCorp (for Wallet charging), and they will then pay the developer... are they the seller?
This is just one big legal, organizational and ethical bomb.
I really hope EU notices this entire debacle takes a big steamy sh*t on Valve (just like Valve just took a shit on customers and modders) for being nearly monopolistic and giving almost no protection to customers and blatantly enabling scam artists via Greenlight and now this.
Seriously - where does this "not their problem" attitude end? Is this some EU vs. USA mentality and culture clash we are having?
How can two multi billion companies take biggest cut of the profit and then say they want to "enable customers to decide" and such PR jazz... which is why they won't offer any support, rules nor police the content rigorously for any discrepancies. Thousands of customers are yelling in their faces: do something with QA.
And some people still defend this model as OK deal?
And so are mods with ads, stolen ones, broken ones, "early access" ones... it's not Valves problem what appears on their site.
What if there will be viruses in the mods (if that's even possible in this or any other game), is that not Valve's and Bethesda's problem too?
Honest modders and customers get almost zero protection from thieves, from mods clashing with each other in unexpected ways, from game updates breaking their mod.
Lots of doom and gloom predictions, and lots of modding is dying and this will be the mod-Jesus predictions. Will certainly be interesting to see how it unfolds.
Just like there were lots of unfounded happy predictions on side of some, including you. You even called people who signed the petition and dislike this "misguided" and "entitled whingers". Do you really think Skyrim modding was not doing well? That "there was some plumbing missing" as Gabe put it?
Because so far it unfolded like crap, thousands of people are absolutely furious, Skyrim reviews are being brigaded with negative reviews ( http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/reviews/ ) there is an organized mod pirating ring already in place on reddit, Gabe, Bethesda, Valve and modders who put a price on are being crapped on almost uniformly across the internet, there are claims of censorship by Valve and mod makers, there are claims of mods being stolen, one mod author already got harassed into leaving by the "players" after he was painted as content thief by Kotaku and Destructoid and claims Valve told him it was OK to use an unpaid mod in his mod.
If anything, this entire debacle makes me happy I never seen the mod magic and just stopped playing Skyrim when it bore me.
Ya, if windows was broken on my laptop I wouldn't complain to Dell, HP or whatever manufacturer. Why would I? They didn't make Windows. I would obviously go to Microsoft for support. Pretty strange analogy to throw out but also did nothing to sway me in that specific point. If a mod breaks, valve have nothing to do with that and I don't see why complaining to them should be an option.
They sold you it. It's their problem. At least in UK, maybe all of EU.
Of course it gets muddy as f*ck with software, especially if it's not on tangible medium but digitally delivered but still, in principle, the seller is responsible.