August 2006 DirectX SDK is released

Awesome!!!

Thanks man.

Too Late [smile]

Sorry David but I was faster.

eeek... I'm getting slow at spotting things, but good to see that theres still some healthy competition for announcements [grin]

Guess I really should close one and redirect to the other.

Cheers,
Jack

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Original post by Demirug Sorry David but I was faster.

You were only faster here on Gamedev, but I'm pretty sure my blog post predates yours (at least, that's what my ego says :-)

Then again, I've all but given up trying to outrun you guys. I swear you and JollyJeffers just camp out the RSS feed for MSDN downloads just so you can be first-posters :-P

It was pure luck as I don’t use the RSS feed for the downloads.

For those interested in DX10:

I tried with Vista v5472 (the version rumored to be used as RC1). The DX10 samples didnt work at all unless they had a DX9 fallback...

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Original post by Demirug It was pure luck as I don’t use the RSS feed for the downloads.

Likewise - I've never really used RSS feeds [smile]

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I tried with Vista v5472 (the version rumored to be used as RC1). The DX10 samples didnt work at all unless they had a DX9 fallback...

All intermediary builds tend to be labeled with the milestone - I've got 5 or 6 "Beta 2" builds for example. I'd imagine that the real/final RC1 build is due to appear soon...

hth
Jack

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Original post by vidalsasoon For those interested in DX10: I tried with Vista v5472 (the version rumored to be used as RC1). The DX10 samples didnt work at all unless they had a DX9 fallback...

You will need the "real" Vista RC1 as there are some changes in the SDK again.

What are the news?

3 cheers for shader debugging in PIX!

I'd like to take the opportunity to whine about the SDK size. 506 MB is way too much--I don't care about D3D10 and all the beta stuff, and downloading and installing 506 MB every 2 months for only a couple of improvements, regardless of how important they are (e.g. shader debugging is great) is silly.

Then don't download it?

We are doing the same with some of our sdk's - some of them have
updates every week or so; we tend to just skip a few versions
before we upgrade (unless there is a critical feature we
absolutely urgently need...)

regards

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Original post by Kitt3n Then don't download it? We are doing the same with some of our sdk's - some of them have updates every week or so; we tend to just skip a few versions before we upgrade (unless there is a critical feature we absolutely urgently need...)

And why do I need to hold back and not upgrade except for critical and urgent features? Shader debugging is great to have--makes life much easier. But it's not critical.

A better question in my opinion is: Why bloat the SDK with stuff that a large percentage of downloaders don't need? Those willing to experiment with D3D10 wll definitely be willing to download a separate SDK for that.

Yeah, I've wondered about the same thing. Why not put the DX10 stuff in a separate download? It's not like DX10 is backwards compatible as such anyway. And it's a friggin' huge download.

But yay, shader debugging! [grin]

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Original post by Muhammad Haggag A better question in my opinion is: Why bloat the SDK with stuff that a large percentage of downloaders don't need? Those willing to experiment with D3D10 wll definitely be willing to download a separate SDK for that.

Because its Microsoft ? :P

Maybe David will enlighten us on this one, but I did ask this about 6 months ago (around the time Dec'05 came out with the first D3D10 CTP).

The answer was that the DX9 and D3D10 "components" shared a lot of files/data/whatever thus splitting them was awkward and wouldn't actually save much space.

IIRC, pre-D3D10 the SDK's were about 100-150mb (?) and Dec'05 was a little over 300. Now its topping 500 its getting a bit silly [headshake]

As I understand it there are two versions of the Windows SDK (aka Platform SDK) - one for currently released OS's and one for Vista.

Given i can't even install Vista I can't make use of about 50% of the current SDK - reading the docs and watching the movies is all I can do.


Jack

I've just added a lengthy "review" of the August SDK to my journal if anyones interested. Most of it focuses on PIX and given that anyone/everyone can use it I'd be interested in alternative opinions/views [smile]


Cheers,
Jack

I'd imagine its a mistake. They specifically dropped it from Feb'05 and blocked it from Apr'05 last year... Dont see why they'd reintroduce support [smile]

Could well be referring to the runtime though - the SDK wont work on 2k, but applications built on DX9 should still work on 2k afaik.

hth
Jack