Hm, as a designer, the only way I would use that number 200 (slain Trolls) is to make sure that that player does not gain much more experience (or whatever progress system is used) for killing Trolls. I would certainly not give the number to the player. He can keep a list himself (it''s not like his character runs around with a note listing all his victims...and if the player thinks his character DOES, well let him make the list himself).

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quote: Original post by Paul Cunningham

What i'd like to know is how would you collect stats for actual "Role-Playing". How can it be calculated?

Because if it can be done then you can show the player these stats which will lead the player to developing these stats futher. Eventually they won't be interested in the stats becuase the idea would kill itself which would be a good thing for "Role Playing".

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Ah...I see where you are going w/ this now...

I think it would depend on the game, but I am thinking something like:

Assuming the player must choose some things at the beginning of the game like the char's skills and morality or something like that (trying to keep it general)...

If the player makes decisions that agree w/ these initial decisions, then the player would be role-playing basically. The game would have to be pretty free so that the player could make different decisons.

If the player is a thief, then the char would be rewarded for breaking into houses.

If the player chose to play a law-abiding char, and the char makes law-abiding choices then he/she should be rewarded.

Conversly, if the player chose to play a law-abiding char, and the char breaks the law there should be some sort of role-playing penalty.



As far as I can see, role-playing can be analyzed by a computer by comparing a player's actions w/ some decisions about what the character is like at the beginning of the game...



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Edited by - Nazrix on July 8, 2000 4:09:50 PM

quote:Original post by Paul Cunningham

I believe the fun should come from playing the role, remember playing superman or batman out the back yard when you were a kid? :-). This could be relived in a more mature way i believe.

Would superman be faster than the flash?

I think that comparing roleplaying to child''s play is a wonderful way to get new ideas. Did you ever think "but superman couldn''t do something like this"? I know I didn''t. Subconsciously you limited yourself in some way, and if you got too far out of line, the other kids would tell you "HEY, you can''t do that!".
So what do we do? Simulate the other kids!




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Damn, I''ll be, umm, Spiderman!


What was it about playing cops and robbers, cowboys and indians, or Batman and Superman, that was so much fun?
The social part of it?
The part where you feel like you really ARE Spiderman for a while?

I''m not sure.


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Damn, you took Spiderman...well, I''m calling Batman right now!

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