Quote:Original post by fisheyel83l
One more time, so I'm very, very clear. The present has value in light of the present and the near future. I never denied that. All I'm saying is that in the distant future the value disappears completely along with any purpose we might think we serve.
You can stop defending they way you value your life. That's fine. But you have to concede that in the long run you're not effecting anything at all. All the pain you felt, or caused; all the joy, whetever...it never happened. It simply did not exist. Your entire existence can be compressed into nothing. That's the point I want you to concede. If experiencing joy in the moment is enough, then good for you. In the long run, your life has absolutely no consequence. That's all I'm saying.
Of course, I'll conceed the general idea of that. Your phrasing of the exact situation is distorted though. For instance, "all the joy, watever... it never happened." It did happen. It's happening now. Of course it happened.
If time is forgotten, and doesn't matter in the future, it doesn't mean it didn't matter at the time.
Let's say, hypothetically, that I place value on something. I value something you can never value, such as one of my own thoughts. It will never matter to you, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter at all.
So too, can something matter at one time, but not matter at another. Do I conceed that yes, there will
come a time, when what I value will not matter? Yes. But I feel like you are not recognizing that what I value still legitimatly matters now. And will matter for the complete entirety of my existance (which I beleive is about the same length of time as your existance.)
