Most effect don't render properly in max without a camera and cameras are always perspective.
That said, the trick is (obviously) to move the camera far away and create a very narrow field of view.
Reg. the angles, I can't remember but I'll check... (Feel free to punk me if I forget 
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/NJ
I can't remember the angles off the top of my head - but they're pretty obvious I seem to remember: rotate 30 degrees around X axis, and 45 degrees around Z axis - or something like that. 
The angles for a 2:1 tile is 45 around Y, 30 around X.
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Co-Designer 'The Light Befallen'
tcm@pobox.com http://www.lightbefallen.com
[This message has been edited by Jim Adams (edited September 22, 1999).]
/NJ
Well, I've got 3dsmax and I'm trying to make isometric tiles but I can't! I've tried what you guys said about rotating 30 degrees around Y and 45 around X, and it looks ugly. Could somebody please show me a tutorial or give me an example of an .max file that does this which you could send to my email at: datisme@notme.com
Thanks alot,
Da_KiD
Okay, are you rotating around the X first, then the Y? If you do it the other way around, everything will be screwed (rotation is non-commutative remember .
As for effects - I'm 99% sure that they render okay through a camera with orthogonal projection, but I may be wrong - I'm far too poor to afford a copy of Max unfortunately. 
They definately require a camera though - the 'user' view won't work.
If you're rendering sprites, don't forget to turn off anti-aliasing-against-background.
-matt
P.S. re Jim Adams' sig: Isn't the Light Befallen long dead?
/NJ
CU
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/NJ
On the aliasing - sometime you do need to turn it off, but a better way is to render with the anti-alias, then render a mask without it to clip out the shape with later. If you render onto a black background, it'll give you objects that stand out more when used in the game.
As for TLB being dead - it was for a little bit - our everyday lives got in the way
But we've redone the entire engine now to use 16bit graphics and a way better sound system and should have an actual game demo coming soon.
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Jim Adams
Co-Designer 'The Light Befallen'
tcm@pobox.com
http://www.lightbefallen.com
