I'm a little skeptical as well. They claim unlimited by we all know computers are quite finite. They always mention a 1024x768 resolution but that's, IMO, a thing of the past. If we're really talking about revolutionizing graphics, the target is at least 1920x1080 which is 2.6x as many points. I'm curious to not only see this in action on my computer, but see whether their algorithm actually scales to HD given that it's quite a bit more points to be put on screen and they never mention anything about any resolution besides 1024x768.

In addition there's all the other issues such as authoring the content, memory usage, animations, etc. Even if you could use this for non-animated objects, would you want to? Mixing something like this with traditional polygonal animated meshes would likely look worse due to the contrast in geometry.

I'm putting this in my bucket along with OnLive and all the other technologies that sound great but need to be proved to me still.

Quote:Original post by NickGravelyn
I'm putting this in my bucket along with OnLive and all the other technologies that sound great but need to be proved to me still.

See here for an update. Taking into consideration the numbers, custom video encoding hardware, custom routing and custom controller, crunching the numbers given by them, it is actually possible for online to have less latency for some than running it via stock x-box controller locally.

Quote:Original post by NickGravelyn
I'm putting this in my bucket along with OnLive and all the other technologies that sound great but need to be proved to me still.

See here for an update. Taking into consideration the numbers, custom video encoding hardware, custom routing and custom controller, crunching the numbers given by them, it is actually possible for online to have less latency for some than running it via stock x-box controller (when multiple controllers are connected) locally.

Guess we'll see soon enough.

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Quote:Original post by NickGravelyn
I'm putting this in my bucket along with OnLive and all the other technologies that sound great but need to be proved to me still.

See here for an update. Taking into consideration the numbers, custom video encoding hardware, custom routing and custom controller, crunching the numbers given by them, it is actually possible for online to have less latency for some than running it via stock x-box controller locally.

That's not possible. If I use a wired 360 controller, OnLive can't possibly beat that. And even when he talks about the wireless controllers, he says there's about 20ms of latency which is still 1/4 of OnLive's target 80ms.

At the end of the day, they've demoed it with one guy playing 250 miles from a server that is likely only being used by, what, a few hundred beta testers? I live in Seattle where my nearest server would be, according to their map, southern California (i.e. well over 1000 miles away and surrounded by some massively populated areas). I simply won't believe that experience is going to be better than my Xbox 360 sitting in my living room until it's out and proven.

(Not to mention I like my 360 game pad and their controller looks ugly. :P)

EDIT: Whoops, guess this is a tad off topic. Back to Unlimited Detail: I'm still doubtful. :D

I have to heavily agree with that. A few weeks ago I was so bored by recent games, that I grabbed SCUMM VM and replayed Monkey Island 1+2 and DOTT with amazing joy, which defenitely didn't all came from nostalgia (which certainly was present too). Good and witty story telling is without doubt falling short when looking at a percentage of total games released per year.
The thing is, that this isn't the fault of any coder or art department. It quite often is big publishers that often are somewhat ignorant and deadline pusing, which so often cripples titles that sounded great, that it hurts. Thus it isn't the mere availability of better GFX, but the marketing oriented companies, and in the end the customer, which often seems to be lured more easily with stunning graphics, than good games. Since companies strive for cash, and only with few exceptions for ideals, they of course cater to that. Unfortunately on the expense of those, that enjoy and create quality games, which seems to be a miority.
Stopping progress in graphics isn't going to change one bit of this machinery I fear.