Don't believe this. You only need to know very very little c++ or any language for that matter, to actually write a game. At the core all you need to know is how to make and manipulate variables. The first 20-30 pages of a c++ book is all you need to know really to make anything. Game development is not c++, common misconception in my opinion. Not enough material covers game development.

C++ is not a good candidate for starting out since you'll have to keep a lot of things in mind which keep you away from the actual programming part

Don't believe this. You only need to know very very little c++ or any language for that matter, to actually write a game. At the core all you need to know is how to make and manipulate variables. The first 20-30 pages of a c++ book is all you need to know really to make anything. Game development is not c++, common misconception in my opinion. Not enough material covers game development.
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Have you ever even actually used C++?

Hi all. Basically i'm hoping to work in games development in the future, at college at the moment and will be starting a computer science degree next september. Now basically, i started learning Python, but the more I read on the net the more unsure I am of whether to carry on with this, start learning C# or just jump straight into C++.

Anyone have a clue? pass it this way please =)

Thanks!

C++ is not a good candidate for starting out since you'll have to keep a lot of things in mind which keep you away from the actual programming part

Don't believe this. You only need to know very very little c++ or any language for that matter, to actually write a game. At the core all you need to know is how to make and manipulate variables. The first 20-30 pages of a c++ book is all you need to know really to make anything. Game development is not c++, common misconception in my opinion. Not enough material covers game development.
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If game making was as easy as, A=B ++ and B = C then C = ++(A) and I got an MMORPG on my hands, then by gah companies have been doing it wrong for years.

What about pointers, address, garbage collections, functions, api, hooks, drawing, math, formulas, modules, direct3d, directx for that matter, model manipulations, instances, networking, controllers, options, SDL, XNA... that must all be variable manipulations also.

If game making was as easy as, A=B ++ and B = C then C = ++(A) and I got an MMORPG on my hands, then by gah companies have been doing it wrong for years.[/quote]
Well no, but if this person wants to start writing games, he doesn't need to read advanced c++ for software engineering, rather just start learning to make games and focus on the games. Learning c++ at a professional level usually takes some college or serious dedication at looking at boring code. The focus at a beginner level should not be "I want to get hired to make an MMO at Arena Net in 6 months after reading a book". It should be to take baby steps and apply those to making small games. Again I said "at the core" thats all he needs to worry about at this point.

What about pointers, address, garbage collections, functions, api, hooks, drawing, math, formulas, modules, direct3d, directx for that matter, model manipulations, instances, networking, controllers, options, SDL, XNA... that must all be variable manipulations also. [/quote]
You can make a game without pointers. Key word can, at least to start with. You are going to write crap code to begin with, we all did at some point. How can you know how to write good code without experience. I remember my first text based game, all 1 cpp file, no pointers, tons of if statements to check what room I was in. I don't even think I had implemented a Class yet at that point.

Thats my opinion, hes never coded, and your telling him he needs to immediately know and focus on becoming a master at c++. You need to start somewhere. The original poster asked about c++ and someone said: "C++ is too advanced" , it can be if you want to be advanced at c++. Everyone portrays the other myth that c++ is immediately impossible to learn as soon as I open up page 1 of a c++ book. Thats all I'm saying. I know you contribute a lot to this community but your talking about this guy writing perfect flawless software without ever having written a single line of code?

One you know how to make a games, the language won't matter so much.[/quote]
This guy has the idea. Learn how coding works, pick any language you want.

Hi all. Basically i'm hoping to work in games development in the future, at college at the moment and will be starting a computer science degree next september. Now basically, i started learning Python, but the more I read on the net the more unsure I am of whether to carry on with this, start learning C# or just jump straight into C++.

Anyone have a clue? pass it this way please =)

Thanks!