Original post by Binomine
...The first movies sucked for the most part. .../quote]

You die, you die and go to hell.

OK, I'd say everyone I know (even people who've never seen any starwars movie before) enjoyed the Return of the Sith. The battels were awesome, the effects brilliant (apart from some specific places), while the storyline and the acting (except for Christensen) was better than the previous' movie.

There is only one thing that made absolutely no sense: There is a scene in the final battle between Obi Wan and Anakin just before they push each other away and smash the computers(*), where you see Anakin grab Obi Wan's lightsaber-arm and push his own - shut - lightsaber in his opponents neck. I may be mistaken (though I've seen the movie twice), but if I'm not then this makes no sense: Anakin has a chance to kill his opponent - in fact he has effectively defeated him - yet he does not activate the saber. Is this compassion (ie. he can't kill his former mentor and friend, as Obi Wan can't kill Anakin in the end)?


(*) The actual sequence is (if I recall correctly):
a) the 'weird' scene I'm talking about ->
b) Fight between Yoda and the Emperor ->
c) Obi Wan kicks Anakin in the butt and the fighting resumes ->
d) they push each other away ->
e) Anakin rushes to Obi Wan and hits the computer lowering the shields.

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Quote:Original post by MasterWorks
Good movie, but I was disappointed with the whole new trilogy for one reason:

Where are the TIE fighters/bombers/interceptors, Star Destroyers, frigates, calamari cruisers, X/Y/A/B wings, AT-(AT/ST)s, etc? (I know there are a few things with close resemblence, but its just not the same.)

The awesome machinery is what got me hooked on the originals and for the most part these movies have totally different machines with less character. As if they were changed just for the sake of changing things. Presumably only 20 or so years pass between EP3 and EP4... and the galaxy has entirely new starfleets??

Yes. Yes they do. Think about it, in those 20 years a lot happens, what with the foundation of the empire and all. The blockade runner is unchanged, you still had ships like the YT1300s. Few resemblances? The cockpit from most of the TIEs is pretty much identical to that of the fighters ObiWan and Anakin fly at the start, aswell as the shape. The star destroyers are pretty close too.

But with the empire, and then the breakoff of the rebel alliance, of course ships are going to change.

Although I do agree that the machinery is really part of what was interesting when I first saw Star Wars, and as hard as they try, they havn't created anything with a real character like the original (in the same way it was annoying they just had Grievous wielding 4 lightsabers, two of which were barely used, hardly creative.

I absolutely totally agree with this. I thought the technology shown in Ep3 was great. If you compare it with the technology in Ep1 and Ep2, I felt there was a great sense of change in the direction of that of Ep4. You can see all the vehicles and spacecraft changing to those of the Ep4 over the time of the three new episodes.

Quote:Original post by Binomine
The first movies sucked for the most part. They have a few rememberable scenes, but there's a lot of filler and puppets. The nostalgia keeps the movies from reeking of old age and simplistic plots. I believe once we've worn in the new Star Wars, audiances will accept the boyhood hero who can do no wrong, the Macgyver-esque Obi-Wan and the flashy fight scenes that most viewers have failed, at least in part, to accept on the first few viewings.

Yeah, they sucked so bad they created a huge fan base ...

As movies go, the first two are the best of the lot. They tell stories that stand on their own. The first one creates an atmosphere that the others don't. The second is quite dark and menacing and features some rather stunning visuals that even look good on a 15" television. This latest movie had tremendous potential but was too rushed. It was like wolfing down a meal rather than savoring it. Lucas began his film career wanted to make art films. He should have stuck to it with Sith. He probably could have learned a few things from Othello as well.

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Also, everyone seems to keep bagging Christensen for his acting. Although I think that his 'normal' acting is nothing special, when he goes into evil bastard pissed off mode, I though he did an amazing job. Maybe that's just me though.

He does do a pretty good raving psycho, I must say. He had a couple of great inner-turmoil scenes as well, most notably the execution of the separatists. I'm still torn on the "what have I done?" sequence after he chucks Mace out the window; his body language and facial expressions were great, but the voice-over sounded kind of goofy.