Quote:Original post by Boris Karloff

Quote:GL commentaryLuke is Vader's hope. His motives at this point are purely evil. He simply wants to continue what he's been doing before, which is to get rid of the Emperor, and make himself Emperor. He only sees his son as a mechanism to further that ambition.

You can also tell during the scene with the Emperor's hologram: the Emperor mentions the son of Anakin Skywalker. Vader acts suprised to hear that he has a son, even though he already knows this (he says "I'm sure Skywalker is with them." earlier on). He had been looking for Luke the whole time so that they could team up and destroy the Emperor according to the "always two" rule. When the Emperor 'reveals' that Vader has a son, Vader doesn't fess up because then the Emperor would know Vader had been hiding something from him. Then, the Emperor wants Luke dead, but because Vader needs him, he suggests turning Luke to the Dark Side instead, supposedly as 'a powerful ally', but in secret so that the two younger Siths can overthrow the older.

Quote:Original post by chiffon2020
So the only real question that I have after watching all six movies is, where did Grand Moff Tarken come from?
Here is a guy that appears to have authority or at least some semblance of control over vader in the 4th movie, at one point he even commands vader to release the guy that he's choking, and he does. Now stop me if I'm wrong, but weren't the two most bad ass individuals left at the end of Sith pretty much the Emporer and Vader (granted there was a 2 second cameo of Tarken). This is the same Vader that says earlier in the movie that he could rule the galaxy, the same Vader that the Emporer said would be even more powerful than himself. So what gives? Who is Tarken and who's butt did he have to kiss to get between the two.