Making an undeleatable folder?

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Quote:Original post by Nice Coder
I would prefer if the network administrator could neither see that it exists, nor access it or deleate it without great effort.


You greatly underestimate the power of network administration tools.
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Quote:Original post by Fruny
Quote:Original post by Nice Coder
I would prefer if the network administrator could neither see that it exists, nor access it or deleate it without great effort.


You greatly underestimate the power of network administration tools.
You vastly overestimate the competence of average network administrators.

My university currently uses a web-based login to get outside the proxy, and every machine is set to remeber form info so that once a person logs on (to the web via the proxy - no need for actual user logons), that computer is logged on in that person's name until they shut down, which doesn't happen. Thus, the whole point of the proxy requiring logins to get outside (to track who does what due to some problems last year) is completely negated by default.

When I was in highschool, a friend of mine got an administrator to log into a fake logon screen made using borland builder with completely incorrect icons, no ability to do C-A-D blocking, etc by saying something like "I need you to log in so I can install this program". IIRC, the password was a dictionary word and the account was the default 'Administrator'. This was on Win2k systems.
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:-) The admins on the network are somewhat dimwitted. (They mainly spend there time working on comps that have died.... "mysteriously". Or replacing mice, ect.)

They have no real reson to check the network drives throughly, and i don't want to give them anything to look at.

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Quote:Original post by Fruny
Quote:Original post by Nice Coder
I would prefer if the network administrator could neither see that it exists, nor access it or deleate it without great effort.


You greatly underestimate the power of network administration tools.


What exactly would they do, how would they do it, and how can i stop them/help to stop them?

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I have also figured out on how to get into my own system volume information folder :-)

Cacls has the answer!

I love playing around on a comp :-)

Any idea on how some programs (like Magic folders?) make your folders dissapear?

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Nice coder
Click here to patch the mozilla IDN exploit, or click Here then type in Network.enableidn and set its value to false. Restart the browser for the patches to work.
You could also play a new new sony cd, and use rename...

I don't recomend this, and I run scans that detect this kinda stuff on my own systems. And If i was admin, you'd be in as much trouble as I could legimental give you (ban account report to higher ups about hacking and damaging system security).

[Edited by - Cocalus on November 5, 2005 9:10:42 AM]
the old "how do I hide my porn?" question
Quote:Original post by RunningInt
the old "how do I hide my porn?" question


Encrypted and compressed 1Gb USB key for day-to-day use. Look into 'source code backup' 100-Go hard drives which contain more than backup for storage on the long run. Or, when legally applicable, a folder of encrypted filenames and md5 hashes allowing you to retrieve known files from your favourite filesharing network.
Quote:Original post by ToohrVyk
Encrypted and compressed 1Gb USB key for day-to-day use.


That has got to be the best answer. Network Admin can't delete what he doesn't physically have access to, can he?

Quote:Original post by Nice Coder
they basically wipe it once a year to get rid of the junk that builds up

Generally when one wipes a network, no amount of hiding will stop them. When I want to clear out the junk I wipe the entire hard disk and restore from backups. This will wipe out hidden "system folders" and folders that non-admins don't have access to.
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When its time (which'll be in maybe 7ish weeks from now), i'll just back it up onto one comp's hdd (they don't restore the comps hdd's unless they die), then copy it back later.

Main problem: Making sure that it doesn't come up in any normal scans. Its going to be in a very out-of-the-way folder, in the middle of nowhere. The chances of the admin actually looking for it specifically is basically 0. He would, however be looking just generally for stuff that doesn't belong.

How does "Sys$.bck" look for a foldername? (note that its going to be hidden....)
Or maybe "De5ktop.ini"? The problem is changing the icon so it looks like the normal ini icon. (I don't have that menu... They have all sorts of "Security measures". Like not allowing people to run programs that arn't called "winword.exe" or "excel.exe". We also have a proxy which sucks as it blocks basically everything.)

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Click here to patch the mozilla IDN exploit, or click Here then type in Network.enableidn and set its value to false. Restart the browser for the patches to work.

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